may contain very LIGHT spoilers.
but nothing you haven't seen in a preview.





So I just came back from seeing ROC, Suprised as I am, as fun and entertaining as it was.
I really think whoever is in charge of vehicle designs on the Team should be fired.

let me walk you through this..

Night Raven - is in ONE scene, and
The PIT - is in one scene, and is just a base, not a big MCC looking thing
Dragonhawk- does not exsist, its just Apaches that get taken out pretty awesomely.
Cobra Mantis - looking NOTHING like the movie, obvious lazy re-release.
Joe Shark Sub - WAY undersized and is seen for a good 20-25 minutes of film time.
Steel crusher - about the only thing that looks movie ish.
Cobra Gunship..

This is where i stop, the Gunship was in almost Eight different scene's and played a Huge role through out the movie, but the Toy looks barely alike to the Movie model. In the movie it is obviously bigger, has front moving side guns, and a much cleaner looking cockpit.
What a huge fail, this should have been the 40$ Night Raven, Kids would love it alot more.

Vehicles in the movie but not toys-

Cobra mini Sub seen at the end... i mean come on its a iconic moment!?
Storm Shadows and Baroness's Flight pack- or I guess hasbro thinks the ones from Resolute fit better.. lazy and cheap

everything else, the repaints, re-releases, and most of the vehicles coming out aren't in the F'ing movie, and the stuff that is minus the Steel Crusher is lacking SO MUCH.

Why does hasbro drop the ball on Joe everytime? I mean Star wars gets vehicles that are nearly in Scale, while Joe gets the Dragonhawk and one man sub that's supposed to be a two man like in the movie. The figures are great,why did they fail on the vehicles in IMO.
They spent so much on making transformers figs like Human Alliance that are great, its aggravating! anyone else think so?

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Totally agree with you on the Gunship. It took me a while to figure out that that was supposed to be the toy of the same name. The one in the movie is really cool looking. The toy stinks.

I can understand why the Pit was designed to be a vehicle - a stagnant base limits the play-ability. Collectors might prefer a 1977 Death Star type base but today's kids wouldn't buy it.

The Steel Crusher is right on. I liked how the worked in all the gadgets.

This is actually baised on Resolute if I recall right.

I think over all the movie stuff is pretty good. Let's face it, we've already recived more new tooling in one month of the movie line then we did in the past 3 years of joe. Not perfect, but also not really that full of fail.

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The gunship was the biggest dissapointment for me. In the movie it is freeking bad ass. The toy is incredibly weak.

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I especially disliked the repeated reference to in the scene when they (Duke) were apparently referring to :S


Completely agree about the Gunship, the toy sad compared to the vehicle in the movie.


Also: what's the deal with the Lava Pod toy?

dude repaints! just like the Desert rockslide!
I mean the rockslide didnt even come with the cool little pull off wings they had in the movie
and they fitted TWO people.. it's the only vehicle and we can't get a accurate version? more money went to the Snake Trax mold?

I hope to god Hasbro realizes what fail the Gunship is and re-does it one day to be more accurate, I think it was the most bad ass vehicle in the movie, and the worst actual movie toy made of the group.



well they should release it under resolute or don't bother, all it does is look like Kiddy crap tonka stuff on the shelves, and why would kids buy it, it's not even in the movie, and there's so much stuff that was in the movie, they haven't done.. its ludicrous.



I was surprised how nice and Accurate the Steel crusher is, minus the driver and the Window cover. It's possibly the closest actual representation of the movie line vehicles.

Now where the hell is my osprey looking Joe Transport , with spot for reactive armor HD?
oh and the FLAGG

oh and btw Rachel Nichols > Megan Fox

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I don't know man. I sure bought alot of G.I. Joe stuff as a kid that was not in the cartoon. That was the 80's, but I hope kids today haven't become so dence that they can only grasp things they saw in the movie.

Also some of the movie toys appear in the Video Game.

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it goes against every marketing strategy in the book.. not make toys that have signature roles in the movie, and make toys that don't show up, and Hope your main audience ( supposedly kids Hasbro says) has a VG system to play the game and then Want the toy in the game as well?

From a company that claims that stuff that's not iconic or have starring roles don't sell, they certainly made a bunch of crap that doesn't star or look iconic in this movie.

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Hasbro makes toys to appeal to kids and parent budgets.

Much like Transformers toys feature considerably simplified transformations and designs compared to their Transformers counterparts, because making them 100% accurate and all to scale would murder their profits. They have to offer the vehicles at affordable price points, and that means sacrifices in scale and price points...

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that would make sense, but I guarantee the Human Alliance TF sets wont be a huge hit with kids because its 30$, but they made them anyway. Most of the Deluxe Characters like skids and Mudflap are a PITA to transform, but they made them anyway.

TF has some of the most complex designs to date, and they are kid focused, So why does Hasbro think Kids who are into G.I.Joe are complete "LASER BLAST"? I'm an adult and have hard times transforming half of my collection, these kids not doubt would take longer to do, and or need parent help.. yet they still make them.

It Just seems Hasbro ALWAYS skimps out when it comes to joe, even for the Movie which is the biggest piece of media in the history of the franchise! Hopefully they will show some progress at Joe Con and show some actual movie toy stuff, because not everyone plays the games and reads the comics. My main focus is stuff from the movie, and now i have to return half of it because it just looks ridiculous now! minus the actual movie figs and Steel crusher.

I'm half tempted to melt the Gunship down and send it in a box to Hasbro telling them thanks for making the coolest vehicle in the movie be the lamest toy in the line.. MAKE A NEW ONE! lol.

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Yes, but they debuted for Revenge Of The Fallen, after the first movie proved to be a huge huge huge success. The first live-action GIJoe film barely came out today.


How about you not melt it down and just mail it to me, Firefly and all, instead?

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Uh, Rhino & Panther vehicles are real military vehicles. I wouldn't mind seeing some Panthers put out, those are kinda cool in a mini-humvee sort of way.

And yes, something about the cobra gunship does seem a bit rushed and it definitely isn't big enough compared to the ones in the movie. But it would be awesome if they could put them & the night raven, subs, etc. out and were closer in scale to the movie vehicles.

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SW has its share of skimped vehicles too. The Sith Infiltrator comes to mind. I don't mind them scaling them down a bit. I figure it's either going to be scaled down or not released at all. At least it's not as bad as the Terminator A10.

Okay, I'm going to speak here as someone who hasn't seen the movie, and who admittedly has been concerned about the state of the toy line for several years now.

There's a degree to which Hasbro can pretty much do what it wants with G.I.Joe. Unlike Star Wars, they're not beholden to an outside agent (such as LucasFilm) for approval.

I suspect what's going on here is that, with the 25th Anniversary-related line having pretty much run its course, Hasbro is hoping to initiate a significant relaunch of G.I.Joe in conjunction with the movie, one that will carry well beyond the movie, and isn't necessarily directed at longtime collectors such as most of those here on JoeCustoms.

They're trying to draw in the kids that are suddenly "hearing" about G.I.Joe, possibly for the first time in their lives, and maybe, echoing some of what Dream said, don't really care whether a given vehicle or even figure was in the movie or not as long as it looks cool.

And they may be hoping that some older collectors will see the new product and, much like some of the kids, not be all that particular whether it was in the movie or not as long as it's interesting.

Really, the same can be said about the Transformers "movie" line -- unless there really was a biplane named Ransack in it (haven't seen that movie either -- not dissing the movies -- I just despise movie theaters).

Speaking for myself, I've seen some vehicles that I'm really not interested in, but I've seen some that I am. I really don't care if that new Helicopter is in the movie or not -- it's a darned impressive-looking helicopter, and I expect to get it when it comes out.

And, just on a note about figure formats, I'll still maintain that one of the cool things about the vehicles is -- they'll work with just about ANY G.I.Joes from ANY era.

I'm not all that surprised that the Steel Crusher is one of the few vehicles that's really movie accurate. It looks it, certainly, and it looks pretty cool. But I'm willing to forgive some of the rest of it as far as movie presence or accuracy is concerned if it makes an interesting addition to my collection. And I think some of it will. Just my two cents.

I think the same way. The cartoons and comics influenced how I look at G.I. Joe. Kids that see this movie, hopefully will feel the same way I did back then, become a fan, and help carry the line forward. It's not my GI Joe that I grew up with, just as my GI Joe wasn't what my father grew up with. No matter what anyone may think, a bunch of 30-40 year old men cannot carry a toy line. I think that may be be partially the reason you have seen many reboots since the original ARAH faded away.. the collectors base gets older and loses interest....or has bigger priorities in life besides toys (girls, cars, babies) This movie toy line, regardless of whether it is movie accurate or not, will appeal to kids for the next 5-10 years and help move the line forward.

Back to the actual toys though, and the original topic, I got excited and went to get a drop ship after the movie, becasue I thought to myself "those are freaking awesome". Went to TRU, looked it over for about 5 minutes, and decided I'll wait for a sale lol. Now the Humvee toy, that is a must get.

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