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 Post subject: Re: CANCELLED: Stinger, Outback w/ Flak & Strato Viper w/ CLAW
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:56 am 
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From where I work now, I may actually *gasp* have insight to this. Back in the summer, oil was $140/barrel, and all derivatives of oil, including the plastic for our Joes, were priced based on $140/barrel oil. Now, with the economy the way it is, folks have less spending cash (or, no credit to buy), current product isn't moving, and oil's between $45 and $50/barrel (at least as of yesterday).

Anyhow, in late October, I heard in the lunch room that over half of the Chinese toy factories have shut down completely. Everybody is overstocked with product -- product whose costs were based on that $140/barrel oil. Last week, the feeling that the market research folk at the company have is, that no matter the industry, the first thing that they have to do is sell off all that high-cost product. Then and ONLY then will they make more, based on the current cost of production.

By the time we get that turnaround, (now we come to my pure speculation), Hasbro may well package these up in movie format as a way to scream "new and different" to the general public.
My only concern with this theory, and I am no economist, is that by the time they decide to get around to making more stuff, whatever it may be, who knows where the price of oil will be at that point? Could easily skyrocket again.

Also, I tend to believe that as far in advance as toys are made, there's some Stingers and Arctic HISS tanks ready to go out there SOMEwhere...


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 Post subject: Re: CANCELLED: Stinger, Outback w/ Flak & Strato Viper w/ CLAW
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:58 am 
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I just saw this now. Trouble in Toyland. I suppose it's possible things might be delayed a lot more often in the future. Which would give my wallet a break. I don't think I've even had time to enjoy all of the new things put out so quickly.


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 Post subject: Re: CANCELLED: Stinger, Outback w/ Flak & Strato Viper w/ CLAW
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:37 pm 
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Well the line hasn't been cancelled. WOO HOOO! Its just been cancelled for pre-orders. Another site had
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Online retailers have taken down pre-orders for this wave. It would seem that the new Vehicles will be released at some point in 2009.

So we'll just have to save our money for this wave when it comes out. :twisted:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:48 pm 
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Well, there's some hopeful news.

And as for the concept of toys being even more delayed in the future -- ACCCCKK! Like I don't have enough trouble tracking down DC Universe Classics as it is...


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 Post subject: Re: CANCELLED: Stinger, Outback w/ Flak & Strato Viper w/ CLAW
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:50 am 
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Well the line hasn't been cancelled. WOO HOOO! Its just been cancelled for pre-orders. Another site had
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Online retailers have taken down pre-orders for this wave. It would seem that the new Vehicles will be released at some point in 2009.

So we'll just have to save our money for this wave when it comes out. :twisted:



What site would that be.... because as far as I know, these are dead in the water - none made.

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 Post subject: Re: CANCELLED: Stinger, Outback w/ Flak & Strato Viper w/ CLAW
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:53 am 
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What site would that be.... because as far as I know, these are dead in the water - none made.



This is true, although the vast majority of the tooling was already completed - so I could see Hasbro using it down the line.

So it's possible that you're BOTH right ;p

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 Post subject: Re: CANCELLED: Stinger, Outback w/ Flak & Strato Viper w/ CLAW
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:56 am 
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I think that the occasions of something being completely, irrevocably "dead in the water" are far fewer than those where something has been canceled until there's another opportunity to get it out somehow, especially when one considers a pair of vehicles where the bulk of the molds exist. Hasbro is a business. They want money. They have to know there's a market for the Cobra Stinger jeep and a reworked special-environment version of the HISS. I believe these will happen. When and where, I don't know, but I believe they will.


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