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 Post subject: Retaliation wave 4 question
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:03 pm 
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Has there been any word on who will be filling out wave 4 (the Jinx/Blindmaster wave)?
Jinx, Blind Master, Night Viper and Red Ninja with Jungle Storm Shadow Web gear.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:18 pm 
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I honestly wouldn't expect this wave to see production

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:25 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:51 pm 
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nova wrote:
I honestly wouldn't expect this wave to see production

Why not?


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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:34 pm 
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That's how Hasbro's track record tells us things are going to play out.

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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:34 pm 
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nova wrote:
I honestly wouldn't expect this wave to see production


When Blindmaster was announced/revealed I kept saying he looked like the type of figure that gets canceled. He gave me that last wave of ROC vibe.

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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:42 pm 
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Last wave 25th: canceled.
Last wave ROC: canceled.
POC Python Croc/Green Blowtorch MIA.
30th NV and CG canceled (Basically 30th "canceled"
to accomodate bi-polar film line release date).
I mean since '94 Mindbender era.... the last waves have usually
seen something between trimming, cancelation, and/or outright extinction. Whether it was the 2nd wave of Sigma AT or Rampage, Wreckage, and Mayday from Extreme.

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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
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Also, Hasbro is dead set against me owning a modern Jinx.

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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
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Gary, in your experience, and with that history in mind, how often do the figures from canceled waves show up in later waves after some kind of reorganization (like for example, the SW Build-a-droid line mostly being transferred to the Black series)?

And does cancelling mean that production never started? Or is it all case by case?

Thinking also of the Iron Man 2 unmasked 3-pack that was cancelled, but then years later the figures start to show up on ebay, etc...

Basically wondering if any of these specific figures might survive in some form or another.

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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:16 pm 
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drbindy wrote:
Gary, in your experience, and with that history in mind, how often do the figures from canceled waves show up in later waves after some kind of reorganization (like for example, the SW Build-a-droid line mostly being transferred to the Black series)?

And does cancelling mean that production never started? Or is it all case by case?

Thinking also of the Iron Man 2 unmasked 3-pack that was cancelled, but then years later the figures start to show up on ebay, etc...

Basically wondering if any of these specific figures might survive in some form or another.


Well with ROC some of it came down to actor likeness. But yeah I'd call it case by case to an extent. I think the GJCC being deputized it seems to scrape the scrapped scraps off the scrap heap whether in full (Nano-BAT, Tan Grunt, Iron Klaw, Desert Scorpion, IG's, Python Televiper) or in bits (Jinx- CS Scarlett or Big Bear-Arctic Duke/Alpine)..... that is definitely making it easier for canceled things to find new footing. But Blindmaster and Jinx being actor bits I dunno if the Club would (can?) tread there?! But maybe with new heads?? As for Night-Viper it has already been canceled once and I don't think that would have trouble finding a home. I mean part of me thinks we will see these figures. But pretending the track record isn't there..... is silly. I mean nova the vintage purist concurs. And that's because the track record extends so far into the past and all the way through every incarnation of the brand. So it isn't pessimism as much as tradition. Now it has been suggested NV was held back for the last wave because troop builders can help sell a wave. I suppose that is possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:31 pm 
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Hasbro has said it'd be harder to find figures from earlier waves, I believe Colton and Lady Jaye were mentioned. If what Hasbro has said about wave 3 being delayed to increase production is true, I don't think that wave 4 is out of the question. I imagine we'll know at SDCC in about a month.

I do think we're on the verge of another lull, for who knows how long, possibly indefinitely.


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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
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Isn't Jinx masked? I thought she was just an SDCC Jinx in movie yellow deco?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:32 pm 
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Yup, masked.


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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:57 pm 
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Isn't Jinx masked? I thought she was just an SDCC Jinx in movie yellow deco?


It's still a film likeness and outfit, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Retaliation wave 4 question
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Well the Crimson Guard has popped up from Chinese dealers again... so maybe the wave will arrive on schedule?

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