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 Post subject: No Canadian Joe Convention for 2013
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:08 am 
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http://www.joecanuck.com/jc/index.php?topic=6668.0

Sad news...

Here's hoping for a Glut of sucky movie figures that the Joecanuck crew can scoop up cheap and populate their sets for years to come...

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 Post subject: Re: No Canadian Joe Convention for 2013
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:22 am 
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"LASER BLAST" "LASER BLAST". I'm so sad. I've been to a Master Collector show, and I've been to a CJC (several), and it was SO much more fun in Canada. That Mike and the crew have to struggle and scrape to put on a show every year, and Hasbro showers favor on those incompetent goons at Master Collector because... Well just because, I guess...

It's just not cool.

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 Post subject: Re: No Canadian Joe Convention for 2013
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:05 pm 
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It was a hard thing on the staff too, and so a little break is likely a good thing.

The first one only had 4 people show up for it. The best one (in my humble opionion) had about 3 vendors and was held under a bowling alley. It grew to several figures and vehiclce exclusives and hundreds of atttendees.

But as these things scale up, the work to do them grows dramatically, and worse, it seems more and more like work. I dropped out of the support team because it was feeling like another job rather than something that I enjoyed. (And I was doing about one millionth of the work that Mike was.)

It started to wear on the people (of which we're talking about maybe a maximum of 6 + the awesome joewives) and the stress started taking a toll on the friendships as well. If that's the price to put it on, it's not worth it no matter how much people enjoy it.

Maybe it will be back, and maybe it'll be 30 guys in a bowling alley again. I am a little sad to see it not going forward this year, but I really do think it's for the best.

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 Post subject: Re: No Canadian Joe Convention for 2013
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:26 pm 
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raptor wrote:
It started to wear on the people (of which we're talking about maybe a maximum of 6 + the awesome joewives) and the stress started taking a toll on the friendships as well. If that's the price to put it on, it's not worth it no matter how much people enjoy it.


I can honestly say the stress factor is to be expected, and not an issue with why there's no CJC this year. Just want to make that 100% clear.

One of the main items of note is the lack of people willing to paint a run of 100 figures. Let's say the set was geared to have 4 or 5 figures in it this year. We would need 4 or 5 people to paint each figure, 100 times each.

In exchange for this, they would get a free convention set, including shipping to their door. Attendance would NOT be mandatory to secure a set. The only issues with this is:
1) Time. We can guarantee the items are to people within 3-4 weeks. - which gives PLENTY of time to complete them.
2) NDA. You wouldn't be allowed to showcase, or discuss the figure you'd be working on. If you did, you don't get "paid", so to speak.
3) Trust. I mean, I'm honestly not too worried about this. I'm pretty confident that if we shipped 100 of the same figure to someone, they'd follow through and not keep them.... ;)

So there you have it. One major reason is listed above.



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 Post subject: Re: No Canadian Joe Convention for 2013
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:06 pm 
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raptor wrote:
It was a hard thing on the staff too, and so a little break is likely a good thing.

The first one only had 4 people show up for it. The best one (in my humble opionion) had about 3 vendors and was held under a bowling alley. It grew to several figures and vehiclce exclusives and hundreds of atttendees.

But as these things scale up, the work to do them grows dramatically, and worse, it seems more and more like work. I dropped out of the support team because it was feeling like another job rather than something that I enjoyed. (And I was doing about one millionth of the work that Mike was.)

It started to wear on the people (of which we're talking about maybe a maximum of 6 + the awesome joewives) and the stress started taking a toll on the friendships as well. If that's the price to put it on, it's not worth it no matter how much people enjoy it.

Maybe it will be back, and maybe it'll be 30 guys in a bowling alley again. I am a little sad to see it not going forward this year, but I really do think it's for the best.

- R


You hit the nail on the hammer on that one Charles.

Breaking it down to 1 figure per person makes sense.

Until you've walked a mile in the shoes it's hard to honestly explain everything that goes into a project like this. In 2011 I had to rit dye 1000 figures in, boil and pop (and dremel) 250 arms, swap around most of the legs, paint 800 bodies (I think, been a while on that) and 125 heads, plus receive all this stuff at my work, take it home, open it all, sort into bags and at the end drive 2 hours to hand off my part of it. It was a lot of work that physically left me hurt and I was told by the doctor "Dave, stop painting army men" but it was a labour of love. I still have a copy of the spread sheet I was running on my time somewhere and it was around 250 hours between my wife and I, or about 11 straight days for a job that large. That is just for my part of the job. Others painted the other heads, the other 2 characters (Trace Route by Pluv and Take Down by Loop), finished assembly of figures, paint, etc... It was a team effort but there is a lot that goes into a set. Plus all the boxes, file cards, comic, paperwork, etc. That's just talking about the toys.

It burnt me out from wanting to make customs for a while but $350 worth of physio and a couple of months later and I was fine.

I'm not with the CJC anymore, and that's fine. I wish them the best in their future endeavors. I'm happy with the part I played and the fact that some of my work is on display in some people collections. I just wanted to share my part of the story.

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