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| Author: | roguetiger [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
OK got a email from Bad Cat Toy CO and in it they are saying that 21st Century closed thier company anyways here's part of the letter. Bad Cat Toys newsletter wrote: In other news, as mentioned last week, JSI has purchased many of the old 21st Century toolings. 21st which has liquidated everything and is out of the picture, had lots invested in these toolings. JSI was the muscle behind 21st's production as they owned the factories where the planes and tanks were produced. Now JSI will use these same toolings, updated with several improvements to produce new products for us. Preorders are up for the 1:18 P-38 Lightning Putt Putt Maru, Tiger I, and Pappy's Corsair. Development is currently beginning for an F-14 Tomcat! Stay tuned. The main reason for posting it was the 1:18th Tomcat in developement with the company. http://www.badcataviation.com/ is the sites main addy if anyone wants to check them out. |
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| Author: | Goldbug [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
roguetiger wrote: OK got a email from Bad Cat Toy CO and in it they are saying that 21st Century closed thier company anyways here's part of the letter. Bad Cat Toys newsletter wrote: In other news, as mentioned last week, JSI has purchased many of the old 21st Century toolings. 21st which has liquidated everything and is out of the picture, had lots invested in these toolings. JSI was the muscle behind 21st's production as they owned the factories where the planes and tanks were produced. Now JSI will use these same toolings, updated with several improvements to produce new products for us. Preorders are up for the 1:18 P-38 Lightning Putt Putt Maru, Tiger I, and Pappy's Corsair. Development is currently beginning for an F-14 Tomcat! Stay tuned. The main reason for posting it was the 1:18th Tomcat in developement with the company. http://www.badcataviation.com/ is the sites main addy if anyone wants to check them out. Yeah it's good that JSI took over. They are also making a SU-27 & F-15. This site has pics of the plane prototypes... http://www.militarytoyshop.com/prodtype ... istory=cat |
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| Author: | Gaigaan-Dnok [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
Militarytoyshop.com wrote: SCALE: 1:18 SWEPT WING SPAN: 25.5 INCHES, EXTENDED WING SPAN: 42.5 INCHES, LENGTH: 41.5 INCHES I don't think it's going to fit on the Flagg...
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| Author: | PaidLoad [ Tue May 19, 2009 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
Gaigaan-Dnok wrote: Militarytoyshop.com wrote: SCALE: 1:18 SWEPT WING SPAN: 25.5 INCHES, EXTENDED WING SPAN: 42.5 INCHES, LENGTH: 41.5 INCHES I don't think it's going to fit on the Flagg... ![]() We're gonna need a bigger boat. Couldn't resist the quote, sorry!
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| Author: | GITrekker [ Tue May 19, 2009 9:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
PaidLoad wrote: Gaigaan-Dnok wrote: Militarytoyshop.com wrote: SCALE: 1:18 SWEPT WING SPAN: 25.5 INCHES, EXTENDED WING SPAN: 42.5 INCHES, LENGTH: 41.5 INCHES I don't think it's going to fit on the Flagg... ![]() We're gonna need a bigger boat. Couldn't resist the quote, sorry! ![]() Good quote. SHEESH, this is going to be huge. I think I remember reading somewhere that the SkyStriker was about 60% full scale, with a slightly enlarged cockpit or some such. WHOA. (Not that I'm complaining about the SkyStriker) |
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| Author: | J_Man [ Tue May 19, 2009 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
The price alone keeps me from getting these. They do look nice but I wouldn't pay those prices. |
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| Author: | Gaigaan-Dnok [ Tue May 19, 2009 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
PaidLoad wrote: Gaigaan-Dnok wrote: Militarytoyshop.com wrote: SCALE: 1:18 SWEPT WING SPAN: 25.5 INCHES, EXTENDED WING SPAN: 42.5 INCHES, LENGTH: 41.5 INCHES I don't think it's going to fit on the Flagg... ![]() We're gonna need a bigger boat. Couldn't resist the quote, sorry! ![]()
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| Author: | ogre_h [ Tue May 19, 2009 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
Wow. They're way outta my price range. But Wow! |
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| Author: | Viper [ Tue May 19, 2009 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
Anyone know if they cockpit on the "1:18 JSI P-38J Lightning Putt Putt Maru, Chuck MacDonald JSI-60001" can fit a Joe? I wouldn't mind owning one of those. The Tomcat's nice, but it doesn't really thrill me. |
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| Author: | AutobotC5 [ Wed May 20, 2009 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
roguetiger wrote: The main reason for posting it was the 1:18th Tomcat in developement with the company. http://www.badcataviation.com/ is the sites main addy if anyone wants to check them out. Goldbug wrote: Yeah it's good that JSI took over. They are also making a SU-27 & F-15. This site has pics of the plane prototypes... http://www.militarytoyshop.com/prodtype ... istory=cat ![]() I'd write these guys a check right now for all three. *thinks* Seems like JSI would have led off with making the unreleased 21st King Tiger and hard-to-come-by Flak 36, too. I mean, why re-issue the Tiger I yet again? Now, JSI, if you're listening... *ahem* 1:18 scale Mi-24 Hind in Late Cold War Soviet livery PLEASE!!!!! Thank you. GITrekker wrote: I think I remember reading somewhere that the SkyStriker was about 60% full scale, with a slightly enlarged cockpit or some such. WHOA. (Not that I'm complaining about the SkyStriker) The Skystriker is somewhere between 1:32 and 1:35 scale, with the cockpit area cleared out to fit our beloved 1:18 Joes. |
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| Author: | Konigstiger [ Thu May 21, 2009 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
Viper wrote: Anyone know if they cockpit on the "1:18 JSI P-38J Lightning Putt Putt Maru, Chuck MacDonald JSI-60001" can fit a Joe? I wouldn't mind owning one of those. The Tomcat's nice, but it doesn't really thrill me. It might. It's one of the earlier 21st molds, and the pilots for them were on the small side. You can probably forget putting anyone with a sheathe or holster in there. Quote: I'd write these guys a check right now for all three. *thinks* Seems like JSI would have led off with making the unreleased 21st King Tiger and hard-to-come-by Flak 36, too. I mean, why re-issue the Tiger I yet again? Now, JSI, if you're listening... *ahem* 1:18 scale Mi-24 Hind in Late Cold War Soviet livery PLEASE!!!!! Thank you. GITrekker wrote: I think I remember reading somewhere that the SkyStriker was about 60% full scale, with a slightly enlarged cockpit or some such. WHOA. (Not that I'm complaining about the SkyStriker) The Skystriker is somewhere between 1:32 and 1:35 scale, with the cockpit area cleared out to fit our beloved 1:18 Joes. Those schemes will do fine. Maybe not here, but they'll do alright. America isn't the only market in the world, and i assure you that 2-seat Flanker is almost certainly aimed at the Chinese market. The FlaK 36 wasn't hard to find. Monkey Depot blew them out for less than 30 bucks for a couple of weeks, and it's still available for less than retail. The MiG-21, B-25 and F-4 were all "LASER BLAST" talk by 21st, they didn't exist in any form, well the F-4 "prototype" was a model kit they had built at the last minute to block Admiral when they announced theirs. Blame 21st for not having one of those. I agree on the Hind. Soviet desert camo. |
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| Author: | pluv [ Thu May 21, 2009 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
That still doesn't explain how they dropped the ball on the A-10. They had a working model built and ready to go and the plans just *poof!* and they were like, "What A-10?"Since then, Hasbro has released an updated Rattler and Tiger Rat, Chap Mei released their version, PTE released theirs, and now Playmates has their "micro" version. All of them seemed/seem to be selling ok. I got the feeling that 21st just didn't like modern armor, jets, and helicopters. Maybe there is not enough money in it and that is why. I mean they'd have to pay for licensing and hit just the right market. Not too many people will drop $200 on a jet the size of a table. |
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| Author: | PaidLoad [ Thu May 21, 2009 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
That or they couldn't match what BBi was doing at the time. Which is a shame b/c 21st made some ok helicopters... just wish they'd made more of them. |
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| Author: | roguetiger [ Thu May 21, 2009 5:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
Wouldn't mind if they re released that Cobra gunship they had out at wal mart that you can't find anymore myself. |
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| Author: | Goldbug [ Thu May 21, 2009 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 21st Century Toys is no more buy 1:18th Tomcat is coming |
pluv wrote: That still doesn't explain how they dropped the ball on the A-10. They had a working model built and ready to go and the plans just *poof!* and they were like, "What A-10?"Since then, Hasbro has released an updated Rattler and Tiger Rat, Chap Mei released their version, PTE released theirs, and now Playmates has their "micro" version. All of them seemed/seem to be selling ok. I got the feeling that 21st just didn't like modern armor, jets, and helicopters. Maybe there is not enough money in it and that is why. I mean they'd have to pay for licensing and hit just the right market. Not too many people will drop $200 on a jet the size of a table. Oh the A-10 is rumoured for next year. |
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