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 Post subject: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:24 am 
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Read it here:

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=262&itemid=13574

and total crapola here:

http://www.indianajonescollectors.com/

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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:32 am 
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I love that they blame it on fans for not buying the figures, not that they super heavy packed Indy and Mutt.


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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:01 pm 
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There's several of the figures I'd have bought if they were at retail in any number that would have allowed me to find them. Instead they went the He-Man route with this line. Too many variations of the same characters and not shipping enough of the secondary characters. It's only so many Indiana Jones figures or Mutt that I want. Actually Mutt I only picked up 1. Indy I got like 5 different ones and called it at that. You just can't do stupid stuff when you are putting a line out and then blame the fans when it doesn't sell.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:03 pm 
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Mutt Williams killed the line. Indiana Jones himself pissed on the rotting flesh of the carcass.


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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:31 pm 
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From Hasbro...

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Regarding the fans who "waited"...well, we can't really build lines around those who wait on the fence and if they weren't enjoying the offering after close to 30 3-3/4" figures, deluxe sets, and vehicles, we're not sure what could get them into the line. To repurpose a phrase from the upcoming election, people have to be "in" and voting, otherwise their votes aren't heard.


"Unless you buy the crap we shovel at you first, we see no reason to give you quality products."

....and if after all this, I end up never being able to get a Mola Ram figure, I'm going to be super pissed.

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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:35 pm 

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yeah it was that turd green snake mutt figure.

AND THE FACT THEY WERE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN STAR WARS TOYS!

they need to blame a lot of it on that. that's why they're just now getting "clearanced" to 5.44. a ton of overpriced crap is still a ton of overpriced crap.

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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:38 pm 
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I think the Hasbro hate is pretty justifiable, but I am trying to stay positive in the face of things. I do see positives in their statements that allude some of my worries about the line's future. Namely, Hasbro will bring new Indy items to market in the same scale if there is media support. So, if there is a new movie or possibly a TV show in the future, we will see a continuance of the line. There are plenty of major characters from the classic films yet to be done.

Whether they 'fess up publicly or not, Hasbro hopefully has measured the fan reaction to the line to examine where there own mistakes are and will attempt to grow past them in the future. Apparently Mattel is able to keep MOTU going by producing one exclusive figure per month. There must be sort of licensing arrangement they could do with Lucasfilm to keep up a similar release strategy. It would clean a little egg off both companies' faces right about now.

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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:39 pm 
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Oh I'm sorry but I call that Z-E-R-O accountability from whoever planned and executed the whole thing.
Thanks to Dan i got 4 russian soldiers at retail. 4 of the same fig for God sake and it was hard too, and maybe instead of it being hard they would have gotten rid of a few indy figs in the design stages and made more troop builder variants. How about that? More German soldier variants.

Than if the Indy figs don't sell they can lean on sales of what adults buy, while whatever demand their is for Indy and Mutt would be satisfied by all the ones they claim were bought (hence those left on the shelves in droves were overproduced).

Piss-poor planning from Hasbro is the reason the line is being cancelled. Fans aren't in the market of spending money on things they deem junk, sorry.
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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:44 pm 
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Sad news for us Indy fans, but we all knew it was coming, now i just hope i can get the last of the line, the ToD figs.

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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:40 pm 
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jedsoon wrote:
Apparently Mattel is able to keep MOTU going by producing one exclusive figure per month. There must be sort of licensing arrangement they could do with Lucasfilm to keep up a similar release strategy. It would clean a little egg off both companies' faces right about now.


MoTU is owned by Mattel, they can do what they want with it. With Indy, it's licensed, and to even produce the product Hasbro probably has to put up a million plus minimum guarantee, regardless of what's actually released or what's actually sold. I don't see them selling enough online to even make back that guarantee, let alone any profit.


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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:58 pm 
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HypnoHustler wrote:
jedsoon wrote:
Apparently Mattel is able to keep MOTU going by producing one exclusive figure per month. There must be sort of licensing arrangement they could do with Lucasfilm to keep up a similar release strategy. It would clean a little egg off both companies' faces right about now.


MoTU is owned by Mattel, they can do what they want with it. With Indy, it's licensed, and to even produce the product Hasbro probably has to put up a million plus minimum guarantee, regardless of what's actually released or what's actually sold. I don't see them selling enough online to even make back that guarantee, let alone any profit.


I'm not sure about that, they had a limited contract, Usually in those instances its a add on royalty fee.

The end result is this Line failed, I assume based on the fact they though Indy was a kids line, when Indy mainly attracts older people, I think the movie was a fail with most kids. I'd be willing to bet the movie hit at the 15-40 age range due to the fact kids are not really into old action adventures anymore.

Also don't forget Lucas has his hands directly on the licensing. He could have been a factor in so many Indy and Mutt figures since it was his idea to have Mutt in the movie anyway.

Note to Hasbro: You failed on this line, a few indys is enough, mainly a Indy from each movie. You gave us eight Indys, several Mutts and a ton of figures that no one really wanted. KOTCS was a good movie, however you based a entire line on the hopes of it being stellar, which it was not. Next time around tone down the new movie stuff and integrate older stuff. Hopefully this experience will help you keep the line going next time around. ( If there is one ). I hope the TOD and LC figures come out in good numbers, I'm still a fan of the line.

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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:01 pm 
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Aside from the fact its the Indy line that gets blamed for this (which got me excited about 1/18 toys again earlier this year), I'm glad Hasbro finally got hammered with their focus on the main characters in a line. Ramming the main characters down your throat, supplemented with a few lesser characers, has went on for years in Star Wars (Luke/Han/Vader), and they continued it right into the Joe line (Duke/Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander).

Unfortunately, those that are making those decisions won't learn from this. Wanna bet how many movie versions of Duke and Snake Eyes we're gonna get? I'm starting the over/under at 7.


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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:06 pm 
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is it really that difficult for Hasbro to package two adult collector desirable figs with one kid desirable fig?

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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:38 pm 
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Hasbro: Without a movie or entertainment backdrop to maintain kids' interest in the line, it's just not possible to maintain momentum in the intensely competitive boys' action aisle.


What competition? Hasbro controls about 90% of the boys' action aisle. Once the Clones War line was ready Hasbro dropped support for Jones. If there wasn't a G.i.joe movie coming next year Hasbro would drop support for the 25th line as well. Hasbro is to blame for the lines failure.


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 Post subject: Re: Hasbro Cancels Indiana Jones Figures: Official
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:53 pm 
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I have to play devil's advocate on this one. IJ failed for one simple reason: the films don't translate well into toys. Not every film series needs a huge toyline, and this is one. I wish to crap they made Toht, but we did get a LOT of figures which otherwise would have never been made. We got a lot of good Indy figures to choose from and plenty of baddies and secondaries. Mutt was a mistake, but the vitriol towards his figures is reflective of about as much hatred directed at his actor himself, IMO.

OK Hasbro, you sent the IJ line crashing into a mountain in flames. Can you please try for the Ghostbusters movie license now? I think that would last longer than 2 waves.


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