Yeah, if the prior Wolverine line was simply adjusted to have the Avengers hips (i.e. pegged sideways and not up) it would have been a top 5 figure (for me) ever.

As for these Happy Meal IM toys, it looks like we are seeing the consumer/collector cut from the mix entirely. They aren't making these for us or for kids. They are making them for Wal-mart. And like pluv said, as long as the major retailers buy big on wave 1, then the line was a success for Hasbro, whether the figures peg warm for years or not.

But by success I also mean short term and short sighted success.

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Maybe these cutbacks are done to recoup the costs of the disaster that was Battleship?

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It's just hard to believe that having product warm the shelves for years = retailer willing to buy more stock in the future. As far as I can tell, the Iron Man 2 line sold pretty well in terms of numbers. We'll be seeing IM2 product on toy shelves probably for the rest of time, but that's because the supply far exceeded demand. For the Dark Knight Rises line, I imagine those figures will be around for the rest of time too, but it's hard to believe that those figures sold well.

Then again, it's not like anything else is working, so I guess Hasbro should try it. I'd certainly rather they try it on a line where I wasn't planning to get the figures anyway, considering that I think I have enough Iron Man figures as is.

They really should just send out a bunch of IM 3 stickers that retailers can slap over the IM 2 logos so they can keep trying to sell that left over garbage. Instead of the new garbage that no one will buy.

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Hah! "Iron Man 3 figures, now with planking action". What a disappointment. I'll bet they won't even release a Mandarin figure.

Yes the will, but he'll probably wear a repainted iron Man armor...

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"Mandarin Armor Iron Man"

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I'm predicting now this will be the biggest fail in Hasbro Action Figure history, but the problem is I think it will be too little to late for them to get the message.

While IM2 is being brought up, you have to admit that line got restocked a lot, much more than cap and thor or even Avengers, the problem was that once the line reached wave 4 that the movie IM's clogged the pegs but most everyone was eventually able to find everything up to wave 3. IM2 was case ratios and nothing more but overall it seemed to do well. I don't think we will see the same with this line (Just as the GL line did, I think I have heard of one restock of the bricks from people I know in WM's around the area, none for Spider-Man or Bats). I'm sure this will all get blamed on failing interest when in reality it's incompitence to put out a decent toy line. GL figures had better detailing than these things for IM3. The crudy cartoon line for IM was better than these (And those really did languish for years). I admit part of me expected to finally get Final Battle Whiplash (another huge mistake on Hasbro's part) bue even if we do he's going to look like crap.

As for kids not caring, how does anyone actually know. There have never been studies on if kids like or care about articulation since 1980 (Which that study was considered invalid because it placed Micronaughts against the much more popular Star Wars, gee, who would kids gravitate to? Gozarnan or Darth Vader?). I call BS on that excuse.

These things will be around for a LOOONG time, the question now is if Hasbro will own up to the screw up or cast blame as they have always done (I'm betting for the latter once again).

As disappointing as it is, parents just don't care about articulation and neither do retailers. Given a choice between a heavily articulated Iron Man figure for $10 or a lower articulated Iron Man for $6, they'll go for the $6 one. Keep in mind that for lines like this, not only do the manufacturing costs have to factor in, but the licensing costs do as well. Lines like GIJoe don't have that, aside from movie lines.

They care. And I actually know because my son tells me. He actually turned down and handed back to me a bunch of Star Wars figures I had won as part of an ebay lot - including a number of figures not presently available in modern form - because they didn't move as well as the ones he likes.



I disagree with this too. I agree that for now the retailers don't care, but I think it's an over-generalization of parents as simpletons to argue that as a class they don't get the difference. I think that totally may have been the case when we were kids, but parents of this generation often seem to be much more tuned into what the kids themselves like. Probably because most of them had these same products and properties themselves as kids.

I've seen this play out in the toy aisle many a time, where a parent has convinced a young child to put down the cheapy toy and get something which they know the kid will appreciate more in the long run.

It may seem superficially less expensive to buy the cheaper toy, but it remains true for parents/kids as well as collectors that a more expensive but higher quality item is worth a dozen of the inferior ones.

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If you didn't notice the MSRP was not no $6 that was BBTS price....it said CLEARLY $9.99 ie SAME PRICE that they are now.........so next ?????

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What will be telling is when these hit the shelves, if collectors will stick to their word and not buy. If they sit on the shelf and only kids are buying, yet they still sit there until store mark them down, I think that will be enough for everyone pro or con to see. Of course plenty of people will still have excuses one way or the other but it won't be hard to see truth in clearance.

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Man, not only is this toyline overpriced for 5POA POSes, but we're not even getting a full assortment of original molds! There are only two molds, and the other two figures are repaints.

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I don't think there will be a Wolverine line.

and THAT is where they get their INSPIRATION from us customizers and adult group they said they take inspiration from...........they just repaint the same two figures and have PLENTY of different Iron Man figs for kids to buy...........

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