Crap now I gotta go to walmart tommorrow just to find out they don't have them. I think ace is a nice redo. I always kinda liked him. Wild Weasle though is amazing. If they ever sell him single card I can die a happy man. I have been army building the old ones may have to give that up fo the new ones.

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I was really excited about the Wild Weasel Figure... until I found out that he is just a Snow Job repaint. .

See I didn't even notice that. Unlike the Zartan/Major Bludd thing, this is a repaint that works well.

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I just scored mine today at Wally World! And boy was I stunned that they even had joes, let alone comic packs. Wild Weasle is awesome. Don't let the fact that he's a repaint sour you on him. The helmet is wild. Much better than Ace. Not that Ace is bad, he's just plain. And weaponless.
I also picked up the twins and the Fred-Scarface packs. I left the Battle Damaged Snake Eyes behind, because I hate diaper crotch figs. But the Zartan/Stormie did look good, so I may break down and get the set later.
I'm a little ticked that their arms have a crapy range of motion. They'd be much nicer if they could bend to 90 or even 110. Oh well. Anyone have a good tutorial on modding the arms to work a little better?

I'm sure that WW looks nice and all but it doesn't change the fact that we now have a pilot in a red snow suite. Alot of these figures really could have had their own sculpt. Sadly we the collectors and fans are falling victom to the corporate bottom line. This is why we are getting second class cittizen figures and not the first class stuff the we deserve. Don't get me wrong I will get the figures...but it will be bitter sweet. We truely deserve better, after all Hasbro works for us.

Seth dude, seriously; it's not a problem in this instance. This is an excellent example of how to do 'just a repaint' properly. Both SJ and WW look perfectly fine as they are. The change of the head, belt/coat flaps, and thigh pouches make an *enormous* change in the 'presence' of both figs. If you have to have an explanation for the similarities in basic jumpsuit appearance, it's easy to say that a pilot would wear an insulated outfit for protection against the cold at high altitude. It's not like COBRA makes their aircraft to exacting standards with hermetically-sealed cockpits.

Seriously, if you pass on the Ace/WW set because of him being 'just a repaint', you're missing out on one of the better figs in the whole line so far, imho. Weasel's just a very nice fig to have in hand. I can't say I ever cared about the character at all before, but now I'm all 'Holy carp, this guy is cool!'

Nicely done, Hasbro. And again, now go back with this sort of thinking and redo Bludd.

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I really think that this mold was made for both figures, not just Snow Job first. The pockets on the thighs and zippers on the feet for starters, but I think that this was made for WW.

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I just realised... you can remove Wild Weasel's visor!

I would totally be up for simply reversing WW's palette to a black jumpsuit with red trim to make a StratoViper. I'd buy at least three of that fig, easy.

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Yeah, but if I get 3 stratovipers, pretty soon, i'll be thinking, "where is my raven?"

I'm going to go hit wally world and see what all the fuss is about,

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I found them at Walmart in Dumfries VA, today. There nothing left--took the last Tomax and Ace pack.

Check Walmart in Dale City, VA--all were gone except on Crimson Guard and Cobra Soldier pack.

From Stafford to Fredericksburg Walmart---nothing at all--at lease not yet...

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Found all of them today -- here's my $.02--

Wild Weasel = WIN. I never cared for the character or the toy originally - the giant head was just too stupid looking and I never had a Rattler as a kid. But this figure is all kinds of cool - one of the best 25A figs so far -- so now I have to go find a PTE A10 and mod it to be a 25A Rattler, I guess.....

Ace -- biggest disappointment of the set. His proportions just look out of whack (gonna have to cancel all those extra Wild Bill pre-orders now) and the paint job on his head is atrocious. The eyes are the worst I've seen on a non-dollar store fig. He's gonna need some serious modding before I'm done with him.

Crimson Twins -- pure awesomeness. My only complaint is that the shoulder pads fall off if you look at them the wrong way. Which isn't a big deal - I didn't like the looks of them anyway. Very cool.

Fred/ScarFace - not too bad. I'm already using 25A Duke heads for my Freds, so this one will get a transplant as well - then I can use this head for another character. Scarface looks exactly like the custom I did a couple of months ago, but his paint isn't chipping off, so I'll keep him

Battle Damaged SE/SS -- no complaints. Cool all the way around.

Now for the bad news:

I REALLY didn't like the comics at all. I have a hard time believing that Larry Hama actually wrote these, because I can sit and read through the entire Marvel run over and over and have a good time (even with the occasional lame story line), but I have no desire to even read through these a second time. I don't know what the problem is, maybe they seem a little rushed, I don't know. But they're the only disappointment of the whole set. I'm hoping that the upcoming issues will change my mind.

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Someone mentioned the lack of the Rattler insignia on WW(winged cobra emblem), well I just noticed, it's on his holster, pretty cool.

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I really think someone needs to run the numbers for us, to show the cradle-to-grave cost of designing a figure. From the designer's time drawing a concept picture, then engineering the parts, sculpting it in clay, to creating and resizing all the 20! molds used within a 25th figure. This cost is important, because you can then compare the cost to make 100,000 figures from one mold, painted 50,000 as one character, 50,000 as a second, versus the cost of running 50,000 of one set of molds, then 50,000 from a second set of molds.

There's also a difference between slapping together a repaint and designing a part with multiple, contrasting uses in mind. Chad_ghost points this out with WW especially, that the molds are designed as much, if not more for WW than SJ. Does RAH Snow Job have map pockets -- or front thigh pockets at all? (No) How about the ankle zippers? (No.) The wrist radio maybe? (WW v1 has a longer black glove in the yojoe.com pic, while SJ does not) Or the shape of the backpack connection? (Definitely similar to WW, not SJ).

Also, Hasbro doesn't work for us -- not unless you own stock in the company. Hasbro, like any corporation, works for its shareholders. So, if they can save money, yet still put out an impressive product, I'm all for repaints. Yes, slapping out repaints for the sake of repaints is dumb. (Arctic 6-pack, anyone?) I'd like to think the disappointing sales of items like that made them learn their lesson.

Finally, repaints are nothing new. Hawk, Breaker, Grunt, Snake-Eyes, and Stalker all shared the same body -- as did Flash and Grand Slam, as did Zap and Short-Fuze. Breaker, Clutch, and Rock n Roll all shared the same face, as did Zap, Grunt, and Grand Slam, as did Flash and Short-Fuze and Hawk. And that's just from memory of the original 13. No toyline is immune (Ratchet and Ironhide for instance).

I just think it's unrealistic to expect "one mold, one character".

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I have to strongly echo this sentiment. Of all the figures I've opened this week, he's the one I keep going back to because he's just so sweet. I can't put him down. Had it not been mentioned he used the SnowJob mold, it probably would've taken me a bit to realize it was the same mold, it just looks that good as WW.



I sort of agree with you, except I think the body is okay. It's all the head that makes him look bad. The head is just atrocious. The paint is terrible, it doesn't look like any representation of Ace we've had before, it's just not Ace. I do think I'll be snagging another one to be repainted as Countdown, as that's what the body, especially with the helmet on, says to me.



Thank you! I thought it was just me, but I simply didn't care for the comics at all.