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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Con Oktober Guard box set 2nd run PREORDER A GO!!!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:47 pm 
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From what I gather they are only making the number preordered. So if only 100 sets are ordered then that's all they'll make. They won't have any leftover to sell at closeout prices in a couple years. That's the impression I get from their postings and email. Reality however is another story.
That is what they said, but I don't buy it. I'm sure we'll see a few loose sets going at the Con auctions over the next couple of years.


Yes, it is now hard to believe anything they say. I also have a Certificate that came with my box set that says it is limited to 600. If they can't be believed on their own numbers that they offer up, how can we take their word for anything they say from now on?

VERY short-sighted in the name of short-term profit.

With all that, I have some friends that missed out the first time that will be happy now!

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Con Oktober Guard box set 2nd run PREORDER A GO!!!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:51 pm 
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Maybe they anticipated the popularity of this particular set and this 2nd run was already made during the initial order.
What they call 2nd run might actually be left overs.
Making 2 short runs of 300 sets for exemples will cost them more money than if they made a single run of 600 sets.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:11 pm 
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I imagine that a lot of people complained due the to short window for registration and the fact they sold out so quickly so people that wanted a set weren't able to get one. Also, there is no way they can wait until everyone has ordered before having these produced. By the time the registration goes live, this stuff is already being made.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Con Oktober Guard box set 2nd run PREORDER A GO!!!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:12 pm 
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I think we can be sure of one thing:

This isn't about being helpful to members that didn't get their items the first time around. If it was, then this would have been the policy before, presently and in the future.

Its a quick cash grab. And thats fine, but just be honest about it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:06 pm 
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Well, yeah. if it wasn't financially beneficial for them to do so, they wouldn't bother. No company would.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Con Oktober Guard box set 2nd run PREORDER A GO!!!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:31 pm 
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Well, yeah. if it wasn't financially beneficial for them to do so, they wouldn't bother. No company would.



Cool story, brah..

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How do think they are paying for those online store upgrades?

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Well, yeah. if it wasn't financially beneficial for them to do so, they wouldn't bother. No company would.



Cool story, brah..


yeah but master collector is supposed to be our "club" not just a money grubbing group of dicks.

I appreciate them creating more of their stuff for purchase, but If they did 2000 sets to start with those sets would be cheaper. Hell if they 5000 of each figure, with a limited special edition box set you could only purchase one of at the con being numbered at 250 or 300 then all of their prices would be (or at least should be) better. it would also give casual fans a shot at having toys they want, as opposed to collectibles.

Master collector has yet to show that they do any of this for anything other than profit.

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They have to think about profit though. If they don't then they'll fail. We once had a Transformers club that used to think more about what fans wanted and their focus was mostly on trying to make the club and convention enjoyable for the fans. The company that ran that club went bankrupt and lost their license. Should FunPub have made more of this set to begin with? Perhaps. But then what if the set had been a flop? They have no way of knowing if a set will be a huge hit or not so they have to play it safe and produce enough for them to make a profit and not be left with leftover product that doesn't sell. Yes, they are our club, but they also are a company that needs to make a profit to survive.


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I'd love so much for FunPub to go bankrupt. That's what I want for Christmas.

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Pyre wrote:
They have to think about profit though. If they don't then they'll fail. We once had a Transformers club that used to think more about what fans wanted and their focus was mostly on trying to make the club and convention enjoyable for the fans. The company that ran that club went bankrupt and lost their license. Should FunPub have made more of this set to begin with? Perhaps. But then what if the set had been a flop? They have no way of knowing if a set will be a huge hit or not so they have to play it safe and produce enough for them to make a profit and not be left with leftover product that doesn't sell. Yes, they are our club, but they also are a company that needs to make a profit to survive.


Right... So people who were unable to buy the Con sets from the Club should stop complaining and just pay secondary market prices for the figures if they wanted them.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:46 pm 
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Pyre wrote:
They have to think about profit though. If they don't then they'll fail..



BUT is there really a reason they increase the prices year after year after year when they are probably paying the same price every year JUST so that profit keeps going up and complain cause they didn't sell out or they DID sell out and people complain cause they didn't make enough... They'd sell out every yr if they lowered the price JUST a bit more reasonable I believe.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:32 pm 
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They have to think about profit though. If they don't then they'll fail. We once had a Transformers club that used to think more about what fans wanted and their focus was mostly on trying to make the club and convention enjoyable for the fans. The company that ran that club went bankrupt and lost their license. Should FunPub have made more of this set to begin with? Perhaps. But then what if the set had been a flop? They have no way of knowing if a set will be a huge hit or not so they have to play it safe and produce enough for them to make a profit and not be left with leftover product that doesn't sell. Yes, they are our club, but they also are a company that needs to make a profit to survive.


Right... So people who were unable to buy the Con sets from the Club should stop complaining and just pay secondary market prices for the figures if they wanted them.



Be sure, due to the pre-Christmas timing of this, another huge round of people will be unable to pick up this 2nd offering.

Maybe we'll get a third round!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:22 pm 
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Yeah, I don't know how I feel about this. The sets are too expensive to begin with, the other night I saw a buy it now for a chinese dial tone moc that was only like 33 dollars or something. .


Have a link for that ??? Or was it ARAH chinese one and not a 25th type?

Check this out man:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE199 ... 4d06fa0248

Or this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GI-JOE-DIAL-TON ... 1c2c6c76c6

And I'm talkin old school.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:11 pm 
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turner wrote:
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Yeah, I don't know how I feel about this. The sets are too expensive to begin with, the other night I saw a buy it now for a chinese dial tone moc that was only like 33 dollars or something. .


Have a link for that ??? Or was it ARAH chinese one and not a 25th type?

Check this out man:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE199 ... 4d06fa0248

Or this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GI-JOE-DIAL-TON ... 1c2c6c76c6

And I'm talkin old school.


ah I was hoping it was one of those chinese dealers who sold the club exclusive figures for cheap.. lol nice prices though.

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