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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:40 pm 
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Every time I hear something like this I recall a warning label -- actually a separate sticker that was applied to a particular toy package a number of years ago.

It was a Batman Armor Set. It included a kid-sized plastic Bat-helmet, plastic chestplate with sculpted muscles, a fabric cape, and a utility belt. I think Kenner put it out around the time of the second Batman movie.

And the warning label read, "Warning - Chestplate does not provide any actual protection, and cape does not enable wearer to fly!"

Gotta love the lawyers! :roll:


I remember that! David Letterman had one on his show, and after he read the warning he looked right into the camera and said "Don't listen to the warning kids, trust me, you put this on and you'll fly like a rocket!".


Oh, that's good. I actually got that same warning label into a magazine called "Advertising Age", a trade publication that my father subscribed to. They were looking for the most ridiculous slogan of all time, and they STILL ran the warning when I sent it to them, with the caption, "Holy Lawsuit, Batman!"

But frankly, if this is the sort of thing that people need to be told, then we need to start thinning the herd a bit. :shifty:

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Sheesh, that poor kid must have the most boring play life in the world.

Naruto: "Hey, ShipWreck, Luke Skywalker, He-Man, SpiderMan, Batman, and Ben 10; let's all go over to the coffee table and um ... stand there for a while."


Couldn't have said this better myself.


Also agreed. Sheesh.

(Although I do sort of wonder what goes on when I'm not at home. I mean, I haven't been able to afford to really travel since the 2004 Convention, but seems anytime I'm out for any length of time, I come back and there's these tiny playing cards scattered around here and there...) :shifty: 8-O


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:32 pm 
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I wonder if she thinks that money from Joe character figures goes to "Good Hasbro" and money from Cobra character figures goes to "Evil Hasbro."

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:58 pm 
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It's not Trekker, its the people in this City, they are absolutely just insane.
Especially... in walmarts.

however i did score wave 5, at the worst one in town, so i can be to at haste to
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:32 pm 
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Thomas, I wrote an entire thesis on it.


I had to point out to a crowd of anti-gun and anti-action mothers and fathers that GIJOE, while possessing a military theme, was far, FAR less violent than Tom and Jerry, which at one time was voted as the most violent cartoon in history, which they thought incorrectly as sedate.


GIJOE: No one died, not even in air crashes and laser fire. Informational PSA's at the end of some episodes to teach children. Multiethnic as well as multicultural.

Tom and Jerry: Teaches the tried and true *virtues* of revenge, betrayal, and how to not respect personal property. Brilliantly delivered with an orchestral track and cute anthropormorphic representations.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
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Thomas, I wrote an entire thesis on it.


I had to point out to a crowd of anti-gun and anti-action mothers and fathers that GIJOE, while possessing a military theme, was far, FAR less violent than Tom and Jerry, which at one time was voted as the most violent cartoon in history, which they thought incorrectly as sedate.


GIJOE: No one died, not even in air crashes and laser fire. Informational PSA's at the end of some episodes to teach children. Multiethnic as well as multicultural.

Tom and Jerry: Teaches the tried and true *virtues* of revenge, betrayal, and how to not respect personal property. Brilliantly delivered with an orchestral track and cute anthropormorphic representations.


Don't forget the stereotypes of white & black women from back in the day ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
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Thomas, I wrote an entire thesis on it.


I had to point out to a crowd of anti-gun and anti-action mothers and fathers that GIJOE, while possessing a military theme, was far, FAR less violent than Tom and Jerry, which at one time was voted as the most violent cartoon in history, which they thought incorrectly as sedate.


GIJOE: No one died, not even in air crashes and laser fire. Informational PSA's at the end of some episodes to teach children. Multiethnic as well as multicultural.

Tom and Jerry: Teaches the tried and true *virtues* of revenge, betrayal, and how to not respect personal property. Brilliantly delivered with an orchestral track and cute anthropormorphic representations.


Actually the most violent cartoon considered is Speed Racer. It was the first thing we talked about in RTF(radio television film) 101 in my freshman class of college.

When Resolute comes out sadly your thesis will go out the window. No parachutes, no pew pew lasers. Granted its aimed at pg 13 but for a lot of idiot parents cartoons=for kids.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:19 pm 
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I've heard that before and what's funny is I'm in a military town(served in the Army at Ft Carson). There is one Army Post(Ft Carson), 3 Air Force Installations(Peterson AFB, Schriver AFB, Cheyenne Mtn Complex) in my city. And then Buckley AFB in the Denver area, so a pretty strong military presence here and I've heard the "GI Joe is a war toy" quite a few times over the years and that parents/grandparents have refused to buy the kids military related toys and that just baffles me as the military is a strong financial support for the area.


As a military brat that entered civilian life when my dad retired, then reentered military life when I enlisted, then reentered civilian life after I was wounded, I can answer your question very simply. The never were in civilians in "military" towns HATE service members, resent the hell out of them, blame them for all the community's problems-

until it's time for deployment. Whence the Joes go, their wallets go. Long deployments send spouses home to mom and dad, to help with the kids. Businesses close, Store revenues nosedive, car sales plummet, rent revenues fall off a cliff, TAX revenues disappear, making taxes go up, and suddenly all the people who were at the front gate protesting the commissary being tax free realize just how much money they're REALLY missing out on. Heck, during the last divisional deployment, the most popular BAR in this town went under And for the larger towns, it's even worse, because they get their nose rubbed in JUST how much their prosperity depends on the post.

Then the deployment ends, and here's joe snuffy, with a years worth of stacked paychecks burning a hole in his pockets. Oh how they love him then, until he's broke again. Then it's back to the same old thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:22 pm 
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kinda , twice now people have made coments about a Cobra shirt i was wearing (the blue one from HotTopic, just a red Cobra logo on it) both times i was asked/acoused of being a terrorist, kinda pissed me off , but then i thought Wow ,how many people know what Joe and Cobra even is.


I actually ended up in a fist fight because of that shirt, because my answer to the question was "well, you're mom doesn't think so... she wasn't scared at all."


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
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Cho, I'm 48, this was a while ago ;-) .

We did a blind test where we just wrote out the antics of one of their episodes, and substituted the names for just a "T" and a "J".

Most thought it was a slasher movie, when you get to the "when T ran around the corner, he was sliced several times from head to toe with a meat cleaver". Or my favorite. "T" screamed, and when he screamed, "J" hit him with a skillet on the head, severing his tongue mid scream.."

Trust me, I grew up on Speed Racer, as well as Kimba the White Lion. They don't hold a candle to Tom and Jerry, which had even beat out the previous violent cartoon, which was Road Runner.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:34 pm 

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Cho, I'm 48, this was a while ago ;-) .

We did a blind test where we just wrote out the antics of one of their episodes, and substituted the names for just a "T" and a "J".

Most thought it was a slasher movie, when you get to the "when T ran around the corner, he was sliced several times from head to toe with a meat cleaver". Or my favorite. "T" screamed, and when he screamed, "J" hit him with a skillet on the head, severing his tongue mid scream.."

Trust me, I grew up on Speed Racer, as well as Kimba the White Lion. They don't hold a candle to Tom and Jerry, which had even beat out the previous violent cartoon, which was Road Runner.


You are only 8 yrs older then me :-P
Yeah Tom and Jerry was violent. Thats the whole point of the Itchy & Scratchy show on the simpsons. Its not that much violent as Tom & Jerry.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:51 pm 
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Don't forget the stereotypes of white & black women from back in the day ;)


Given the fact when those particular episodes were first made, it wasn't an issue back then. It was what it was.

Looking back after all this time from our POV turns it into a stereotype. We're now 'enlightened'.

The problem with these older cartoons is that some people just didn't 'get' the fact were cartoons. I knew if a road runner-chasing Coyote fell off a cliff there would be a little poof of dust and he'd be back with another plan. I also knew that if I fell off a cliff it wouldn't be something I'd readily walk away from. I knew I couldn't paint a black circle on the road or paint a road continuation on the wall and expect to disappear into it. In short I could separate a cartoon-based reality from an actual real life.

At some point people have to realize it is a frickin' cartoon. It's meant as entertainment.

It is fiction, it is made up.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
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good point..and it has been kind of funny yet sad reading over who has complained about the Wall-E movie, and why...involves some irony/hypocrisy. always good breakfast reading :D

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:18 am 
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Don't forget the stereotypes of white & black women from back in the day ;)


Given the fact when those particular episodes were first made, it wasn't an issue back then. It was what it was.


Agreed completely on this. One thing that really annoys the hell out of me is people who try to apply modern standards to anything historical, including cartoons.

DarkJedi wrote:
Looking back after all this time from our POV turns it into a stereotype. We're now 'enlightened'.

The problem with these older cartoons is that some people just didn't 'get' the fact were cartoons. I knew if a road runner-chasing Coyote fell off a cliff there would be a little poof of dust and he'd be back with another plan. I also knew that if I fell off a cliff it wouldn't be something I'd readily walk away from. I knew I couldn't paint a black circle on the road or paint a road continuation on the wall and expect to disappear into it. In short I could separate a cartoon-based reality from an actual real life.

At some point people have to realize it is a frickin' cartoon. It's meant as entertainment.

It is fiction, it is made up.
Boy, all this from my encountering one nutjob in a Wal-Mart! I'm either going to have to go shopping more often -- or less often. ;-)


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tell us about the shopping malls!!!! lol

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone ever encountered THIS lunacy?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:31 pm 
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Thomas, I wrote an entire thesis on it.


I had to point out to a crowd of anti-gun and anti-action mothers and fathers that GIJOE, while possessing a military theme, was far, FAR less violent than Tom and Jerry, which at one time was voted as the most violent cartoon in history, which they thought incorrectly as sedate.


GIJOE: No one died, not even in air crashes and laser fire. Informational PSA's at the end of some episodes to teach children. Multiethnic as well as multicultural.

Tom and Jerry: Teaches the tried and true *virtues* of revenge, betrayal, and how to not respect personal property. Brilliantly delivered with an orchestral track and cute anthropormorphic representations.


Actually the most violent cartoon considered is Speed Racer. It was the first thing we talked about in RTF(radio television film) 101 in my freshman class of college.

When Resolute comes out sadly your thesis will go out the window. No parachutes, no pew pew lasers. Granted its aimed at pg 13 but for a lot of idiot parents cartoons=for kids.


How is Speed racer violent?

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