well, the wife tells me all the ones she knew spent the majority of their time relaying orders from higher ranking officers to NCO's, lol.

But I think Capt Rivas was the highest ranking guy we knew, and it was not socially.. . the man had to be part machine.

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Yeah it is always funny how the ranks on Joe Cards seem to fluctuate...except for Duke - he seems to stay an E-8 forever (but it does vary between 1stSgt & MSgt).

As for the Navy Warrants. The Torpedo thing is a little funny too because they list him as a "WO-5" in 1997. The Navy warrant ranks go WO-1 (not used anymore for Navy), CWO2, CWO3, CWO4, CWO5. And the Navy Chief Warrant Officer 5 was not established until around 2002 (the first one promoted here: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/First+Nav ... 0113305747)

Here is a Warrant Officer Link from the official website: http://www.navy.mil/navydata/navy_legacy_hr.asp?id=268

Probably TMI, but what the heck, I had some free time lol.

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On another note, something I noticed - and please Chief correct me if I'm wrong - is that bottom pick mirror-imaged or something? To my knowledge a US beret should go flash on the left, and slanted/tapered off to the right; it looks like his is reversed, like some other countries wear them.

???

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In his 90's incarnation, he jumped up to CSM (Command Sergeant Major, E-9). That bothered me a bit too, he will always be Top to me.

I was looking at Deep Six also, for the most part he is listed as an E-7 Chief Petty Offcer (CPO), but at one poiint he is listed as ND2 (rates not rank) yet Master Diver Qualifed. ND2 is (I think, it has been a few years) a second class diver, which is usally an E-4 or E-5. The Army followed the Navy's convention of associating ranks and rates for divers after a few instances.

So I think it could be Chief Deep Six more so than Chief Torpedo, but it does not seem to sound as good.

I am sure some good intentioned souls try hard at Hasbro to make it all work, but I am sure we will always have this friction when reality and fantasy collide. etiher that, or like our Chief said: they are just ignorant.

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I forgot about that E-9 jump, good call Tsu. Yeah Navy rates are definitely "unique" to say the least. I have always said that I wish we could just use "Petty Officer __ class" over all the rates. I mean, you really can - but when you call a sailor Petty Officer Doe instead of "Hey BM2," you get funny looks because he's like "this blankety blank doesn't know who I am or what my rate is." lol.

For those that care, the Navy rates are basicaly bass-ackwards. So if you have a Chief that is a Navy Diver, the abbreviation is NDC = Navy Diver Chief; For a Senior Chief = NDCS = Navy Diver Chief Senior.

THEN... if you becom a Command Chief (think Chief of the Boat from Crimson Tide) then you just lose your rate insignia and become CMDC = Command Chief, CMDCS, etc.

Great system huh - not confusing in the least

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Ah man! Personally I think that's quite ugly. Sorry, just my opinion! I think they should be worn like Falcon. Most European armies wear them like that. But hey, it could be worse:



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If you're talking about the dude in arctic gear, he's a foreigner -- don't know from where, though. His gun makes me think he's French, but I don't know -- I can recognize UK, Aussie, German & Canadian "standard" uniforms pretty well, but other contries and types of uniforms escape me.

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Over the last few years, those involved in special programs have switched to rates. We're now rated ND(Navy Diver - divers), SB (Special Warfare Boat Operator - SWCC), or SO (Special Warfare Opererator - SEALs) to allow guys to test and advance better in their rating, as well as granting the senior members of the Specwar communities more control as to who promotes (rather than having a craptastic operator make Chief on an EM board).

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I love it when Chief educates us.

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Some of those berets look more like tam o' shanter's...

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