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 Post subject: Re: 25thA: Hasbro's favorite Joe years
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 25thA: Hasbro's favorite Joe years
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:09 pm 
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'87 is when I started to move away from GI Joe, and by the time everything turned neon,


No matter how many times someone uses this word... I've yet to see a GIJoe filled with a special gas, who emits a glow when an electric charge runs thru it. Then I accept that the poster means fluorescent, and become enraged, merely, by the insistence that *every* figure was brightly colored. Which still pisses me into the off position.

The fact is, since 1982, Hasbro used bright colors on a number of figures (Cobra Commander is *not* wearing tasteful navy blue, after all... he's in a bright powder blue outfit) Gung-Ho goes the same route, with o.d. green camo on a baby blue uniform. The Blaze-red HISS Driver, and Blowtorch don't really blend, IMO. Copperhead's aqua and lime color-combo doesn't guarantee you'll go blind, but it helps. And need I mention Sci-Fi???

1988, still considered a good year for Joe with characters like IG Destro, Muskrat, and Shockwave, plus military-realistic Repeater also produced Skidmark, Windchill, and Voltar. 1989 gave us both the Alley-Viper (nostalgia aside, was a technicolor nightmare) and Night Viper.

Granted, Hasbro was using much brighter colors by the early 90s, especially on weapons and repaints (The Battle Corps DEF Repaints are dead-guilty of this), but on the whole the line was *never* "everything neon" like so many people love to say.

So that tick I have in my eye right now? It's not bcause the 90s were super-dope and you's guys are just not hipped to it. No, a lot of the 90s Joes missed the mark. But there's a dispropotionate number of decent and down-right awesome figures that get trashed because they came out the same year as the Mega Marines and Eco Warriors compared to the number of outright awful figures from the Golden Age that get lauded simply because they were released at "the right time".

So I'll say this right now: Sci-Fi sucked, and I hope he never gets another figure, unless it's the 1991 version who had a great design and not a stitch of fluorescent coloring anywhere! I sincerly hope that when Hasbro decides to do another Duke sculpt, they look directly to the 1993 Battle Corps version 9the same goes for Cobra Commander and the Talking Battle Commander/Battle Corps design). I'd rather see a DEF version of Mutt and Junkyard before the drab original design. And if I never see another Night Viper in this lifetime, it'll be too soon.


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 Post subject: Re: 25thA: Hasbro's favorite Joe years
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:08 pm 

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i don't ever want to see the talking battle corps cobra commander again. the design's terrible, and kind of was what killed the joe line for me.

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 Post subject: Re: 25thA: Hasbro's favorite Joe years
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:47 am 
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Straight Edge wrote:
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'87 is when I started to move away from GI Joe, and by the time everything turned neon,


No matter how many times someone uses this word... I've yet to see a GIJoe filled with a special gas, who emits a glow when an electric charge runs thru it. Then I accept that the poster means fluorescent, and become enraged, merely, by the insistence that *every* figure was brightly colored. Which still pisses me into the off position, etc.

Relax, dude. From the American Heritage Dictionary

ne·on (nē'ŏn') Pronunciation Key
n.
3. An extremely bright color.
adj. Extremely bright or vivid; fluorescent: neon purple.


Like it or not, if someone refers to the time period where "Hasbro began to utilize fluorescent colors on weapons, uniforms and vehicles," (i.e. "everything turned neon") most people will know what you're talking about. I'm not bashing GI Joe for using fluorescent colors, I'm just referring to a period of time is all. In fact, one of my favorite figures came from the later years, '94 Shipwreck.

Some people dig stuff from the later '90's, and I won't fault them for that. The simple fact is, though, that I got into GI Joe in 1982, and collected them heavily until '86 or so, when stuff like like Centurions and M.A.S.K. and Ninja Turtles started to take over. By the time those went away, GI Joe was still around, and stuff like Eco Warriors, Mega Marines, Battle Corps, etc. just didn't appeal to me.

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 Post subject: Re: 25thA: Hasbro's favorite Joe years
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:19 pm 
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PaidLoad wrote:
i don't ever want to see the talking battle corps cobra commander again. the design's terrible, and kind of was what killed the joe line for me.


Wow... hating how many times they used the mold, I can understand. Otherwise, we simply disagree on an iconic design for Cobra Commander.

The design itself was based, very strongly, on the comic uniform Cobra Commander wore in the very first issue of the Marvel Comic... and it deserves a 25th figure as much as, if not moreso, than the battle helmet design we've gotten so far. Never mind that the screwed that figure up by slavishly recreating the gun-holster thing on the back, and giving the hooded repaint a wind-swept look.


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