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Which makes for a more effective trooper?
BATs 69%  69%  [ 25 ]
Zombie VIpers 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
Dasaffe 19%  19%  [ 7 ]
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 Post subject: Re: BATs or Zombie Vipers?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:34 pm 
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How can You say Zombies aren't more effective then BATS?

Soldiers are volunteers and cheap, they go in, they die, they come back, and only a head shot will take them down.

Vs.

A expensive Android that in reality one hit to the right cicuit becomes crippled?
Or even not reality, just cartoon wise, a few laser blasts and it's over.

It's cheaper to have an overwhelming onslaught of living dead soldiers, then Building an army of BATS.

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 Post subject: Re: BATs or Zombie Vipers?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:09 pm 
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You can't smuggle a BAT onto an airplane. Zombie vipers won't set off metal detectors.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:19 pm 
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Zombies on a Plane.

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 Post subject: Re: BATs or Zombie Vipers?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:33 pm 
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BATs all the way. You can program them to do your bidding, unlike a zombie, who just shambles along brainlessly. I'm sooo tired of the whole zombie genre I wish it would go away.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:10 pm 
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The only zombies in fiction I've ever seen that were generally worthy soldiers were the ones in Doom, because they were the result of demonic possession.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:00 am 
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Gotta go with BATs. Some modicum of control, and robots are cool.

Zombies are played out and overrated. They're slow, and you can't control them. Sure, they might make a decent psychological weapon, but then you gotta clean up the aftermath, if you want to actually use that territory. What are you gonna use to do that? Probably more BATs.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:34 am 
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I can actually see Cobra having a special sub set of BATs to deal specifically with Zombies.

They do have the various accessories modules. Heck, just use the internet pack as Zombie killers. Roll up in their APC.

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Actually, the zombies in Blood were decent, but then again, they were also quite fast, essentially "manufactured" rather than reanimated, and carried axes.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:05 pm 
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I didn't really pay attention to the file cards, but Zombie-Vipers are obviously more than just standard shamblers.

Compound Z appears to more like the T-Virus in Resident Evil, as it affords some serious mutation (the tendril arms). There's also the "control helmets" and canisters included with the Zombie-Viper.

I think Compound Z might not be the reanimation agent itself, but a mutagen that makes zombies more useful.

I'll consent that standard "walking dead/OTD" style zombies are useful only as a terror weapon, but I'm thinking Compound Z affords some benefits to the Zombie-Vipers normal walkers don't have. Be it speed or just enough more intelligence to make them controllable than a walking plague, it definitely gives them SOME advantage.

I can absolutely see BATs being used to clean up areas where Zee-Vees were deployed. If they make too much of a mess, infest too much of the target population, just use the BATs to clean them out. The Zee-Vee's won't care about BATs any more than they would about a vending machine, even if they are armed.

But think like COBRA guys, not how to use BATs against Zombie-Vipers... but how to use them together.

One BAT vs. one Zombie-Viper, of course the BAT is going to win. But BATs have to be a serious investment, and even if they can be repaired or self-repair, they can't self replicate. I do think both should be considered weapons and not troops. They're tools, and each has a specific use they would excel at.

I know some people are sick of the zombie trend, but common... it was the robot trend of the 80's that gave us BATs. They're both born of ridiculous sci-fi tropes, the fun is trying to figure out how things like that might actually work! :D

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