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 Post subject: Re: Save the survivors!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:33 pm 
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Good luck to you. I hope someone will listen to you.

But like many others, I would rather see select RAH molds re-tooled rather then trying to save the old tools if they are a lost cause. Plus re-tooling alows them to use figures that they no longet have the molds for.

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 Post subject: Re: Save the survivors!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:48 pm 
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We got about 5-10 figures like that from the 25th line...everything else was just a re-do of vintage figures, that "same stuff that's redily avaiable on Ebay".
The Club has been able to give us near double that number using mostly vintage tooling with select new tools in a format that is a proven winner and excellently engineered.


Master Collector will always do their own characters and themes regardless of figure construction. The 25th style Manleh et al from this year should prove that. It's not a matter of ARAH or 25th, it's a matter of Master Collector being able to stray farther from the main line because of their niche status.

If the tooling situation we have now had happened back in 2002 we could have seen all the figures Master Collector has given us since then done in 25th style. Perhaps even with some better mold choices because they wouldn't have had to "compromise" when tooling was missing or broken.

J_Man: I asked Richard about the Snowjob in the Then and Now pack. He's 100% brand new tooling.

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 Post subject: Re: Save the survivors!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:09 pm 
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viperlord wrote:
J_Man: I asked Richard about the Snowjob in the Then and Now pack. He's 100% brand new tooling.



I figure it had to be. It's probably just like me in some case. With t-shirts, it's easier to just make a new screen sometimes than reuse one. See with screen printing you have a chemical coated on the screen and the image is burned on. That chemical breaks down every time you use it and clean the ink out. Eventually you have to use another chemical to touch up areas that washed out. Finally it's just not useable. So yeah after about the 3rd time of reusing the screen I'll strip it and remake it. When you have the equipment to do it, it's no big deal other than cost. Which again goes back to fixing the screen costs more than just make another.

With these molds, I'm not in that business where I have tons of molds laying around and I cast items the same way. But, even still most businesses have similarities. I wouldn't think molds versus cost/upkeep/remaking molds would be much different than me with screens. They have the equipment to remake whatever they want.

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 Post subject: Re: Save the survivors!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:54 pm 
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I love the new 25th style...

My O-ring guys look like midgets next to em and they are taking up prime real estate. I am all for nostalgia...but I think the o-ring time is passed.

Anyone want some O-ring figures?

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 Post subject: Re: Save the survivors!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:36 pm 
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chaosx wrote:
I love the new 25th style...

My O-ring guys look like midgets next to em and they are taking up prime real estate. I am all for nostalgia...but I think the o-ring time is passed.

Anyone want some O-ring figures?


I'm not quite there, but I am to the point where many of my o-ring figures are getting taken off display and packed away as 25th replacements become available.

I still love the old stuff for nostalgia's sake, but the newer figures are so nice they make the old ones look like a crappy art project I made in kindergarten. I feel bad about it because I thought those same figures were so realistic when I was little, but now the sculpting is so rudimentary and the paint work so basic that they just don't hold up with modern figures.

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 Post subject: Re: Save the survivors!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:48 pm 
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viperlord wrote:
I still love the old stuff for nostalgia's sake, but the newer figures are so nice they make the old ones look like a crappy art project I made in kindergarten. I feel bad about it because I thought those same figures were so realistic when I was little, but now the sculpting is so rudimentary and the paint work so basic that they just don't hold up with modern figures.


Wow. I disagree so so much. But to each his own I guess. All you kids getting ready to dump your ARAHs, make sure you save me your '86 Mindbenders. :D

Honestly... While ARAH is my prefered figure type... I don't really care anymore either way. Hasbro has said numerous times that they are done with that type of construction, and I've stopped being impressed with MCs offerings, especially at the ridiculously unjustifiably high price they demand, so I'm unlikely to buy from them anyway (especially since I consider them for the most part to be tool bags to whom I am loathe to give any of my money)

So if they feel like they need to get rid of the molds... I say let em. It's their stuff, and their warehouse space, and the molds aren't doing me any good so...

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