The Grizzly is a large, bloated vehicle that lacks the detail of the original toys. But it has a nice aim and shoot feature.

The Rat is a cheap drug store toy packaged in a GIJoe box.

Grizzly the winner by far. Not even close actually.

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Is this a legitimate question? Or, are you guys mocking the AWE Striker vs. VAMP thread? I'm going to step out on a limb and say you're just being facetious. And although I bit hard on the other thread I concur. A dune buggy and a jeep only are alike in that they both have four wheels there truly is no comparison.

Oh and I vote for the Night Force Grizzly

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Don't forget...Night Force Grizzly comes with Wild Bill...or whatever version the woodland camo was that came with him. Either way, its tank driver is a helicopter pilot.

Which in my Joeverse means one thing:

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Well, considering I didn't even remember the Rat existed until just now, I'm going to go ahead and call it the most forgettable vehicle in the line.

As for the Grizzly, I love that tank. Figures can actually get down inside the thing and it comes in two flavors.

Are we talking about the toys or the concept of these vehicles?

Because I happen to like the Rat, despite it's crappy toy. There was a very similar vehicle in the old Jungle Strike game, it was an orange hovercraft which had almost the same shape as the Rat which could fire a machine gun up front and lay mines behind it.

- JM

Actualy, the Rat only has ONE working flying disk launcher...the other side is just a holder for a 2nd fan disk

I've said before that I'd gladly smash a RAT with a Cinder Block...regardless of where it's located...I'm sure a Patriot Grizzly could easily replace a Cinder Block in that process.

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If the Rat used just slightly different colors, it would mesh a lot more with the other Cobra items. Like these colors:

http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/87/jetpack/

But with the brush saws it has, I think it just would have been a lot better as a Dreadnok vehicle. Picturing it in colors like the Swampfire is also a lot better than what we got.

Since the question specifically asked about the Night Force Grizzly, I voted Rat. The Night Force Grizzly just doesn't live up to the name Night Force imo. It looks nothing like what we already knew as Night Force and simply is a camo tank. I voted against it just because it works against the appeal of one of the classic subteams.

Like this?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/to ... 170012.jpg



The Rat actually looks good in a subdued red or maroon, like Citadel's Scab Red.

- JM

Its a legitimate question. They debated this issue for well over an hour yesterday in chat and like Billie said before neither was willing to budge on the stance.

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Cjack, never ever question the internet's ability to create arguments over trivial and nonsensical things. Particularly when Billy's involved.

I once noticed a 90 page thread on a cooking site on the relative merits of Mild Cheddar vs Colby cheese.

- R

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This has to be a joke. The Rat is the biggest pile of plastic "LASER BLAST" ever made by Hasbro. It is only worthy of being launched from a potato gun or smashed with a hammer.

I also had to go with the Grizzly.
Not because I like it. Honestly I really don't care that much for it.

But good lord, the Rat?
I think this described it perfectly:

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This is an absolute no contest. The Grizzly is one of the best Joe toys of all time (along with the NAC), imo.

It's got eveything a toy tank should have - firing missiles, opening hatches, ammo storage, cool electronics that actually enhance play (and are not there just to bump up the price), and my personal favourite feature - the screaming guy sound effect after one of the explosions.

"Aaaargh!!!!!"

That sound effect alone is better than the Rat.

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Nice taking up bandwidth for a joke thread. I can't believe I actually read it this far too! Seriously, how is this even a question? It's like asking "Which is better? Someone gives you $5 or you step on a nail and get an infection?"

I really don't care for the Patriot Grizzly at all, even though the Night one has a better paint scheme, I just don't like the too-large size and all the stupid gimmicks Hasbro feels obligated to throw in on vehicles. Especially during the JvC era (Sound Attack!, spring-loaded crap, etc.) But in a comparison with the Rat, it isn't even a question! Really, I opened the thread because I figured someone must have been shortening the name of the Rattler (either the original or the Stinger 4wd) and I just had to see how it was going. But the RAT!?!

I think too many people above have already covered the hollow cavity turd that the Rat is like. Indeed, drug store toy in a Joe box. Heck, comparing it to dog crap is an affront to dogs.

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If I only had the space for one, you would have just sold it to me.

- R

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