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 Post subject: Re: Military Ranks for Cobra?
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:29 pm 
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There's the Cobra bigwigs, Destro, Baroness, Twins, etc. None of them really outrank one another. Its all who has the proper leverage at the time. Who's the biggest bully on the block. Cobra Commander or Serpentor usually run the show.

Cobra troops? Crimson Guard, then Cobra officers, then everyone else. Simple as that.


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 Post subject: Re: Military Ranks for Cobra?
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:52 am 
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AdrienVeidt wrote:
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Those who don't stay on defensive duties as 'Blueshirts'.


My problem with this thinking is that y'all think 'Blueshirts' is an actual title for these guys. Like it's a term that would show up on their paychecks or something. I think 'Blueshirts' is something derogatory, used either within the COBRA ranks as a bit of hazing or by the Joes (or even both). Just like I don't see Hitler ever calling his guys 'Brown Shirts', I don't see CC calling his troopers 'Blueshirts'. It just doesn't sound like an official rank or term, imho.


Just like in the U.S. Army, you refer to a gaggle of soldiers as "Joes." Shortened from "Joe Snuffy" or "Joe "LASER BLAST"," and the real origin of the name G.I. Joe. Refers, waaaay back in the dawn of time, to the cartoons done by Bill Mauldin about the american military experience; one of the characters was Joe. "Jarhead" as a slang term for Marines is another equitable example.

My own Cobra T.O. & E. is based on western armies, as are the real world armies of the countries these cats are most likely recruited from. The "Blueshirts" are E-1s through E-9s and O-1s thru 0-8. The only variant to me from U.S. Rank structure is substituting "Trooper" for "Private" (Trooper, Trooper Second Class, Trooper First Class, corporal, Sergeant, Staff Sergeant, Sergeant First Class and so on.) The Vipers are the equivalent to S.O.G. troops such as Green Berets and Rangers or the S.A.S., and as such, have the same rank titles, (except substituting "Viper" for "private") Their MOS's do not affect their rank titles, much the way real world armies do not, IE he may be an Alley Viper, but his title is Sergeant; She may be a mediviper, but her title is Lieutenant. CG's are secret police and political officers equivalent to KGB or Gestapo; they are all officers, the majority being captains and majors. Individual Characters tend to have the grades and ranks that I feel they should have based on my experience of real world militaries, regardless of canon. (That actually applies to my Joes, for that matter. In real life, a SSG is not toting the M240 around, a specialist is.)


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 Post subject: Re: Military Ranks for Cobra?
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:40 pm 
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ThMick wrote:
My own Cobra T.O. & E. is based on western armies, as are the real world armies of the countries these cats are most likely recruited from. The "Blueshirts" are E-1s through E-9s and O-1s thru 0-8. The only variant to me from U.S. Rank structure is substituting "Trooper" for "Private" (Trooper, Trooper Second Class, Trooper First Class, corporal, Sergeant, Staff Sergeant, Sergeant First Class and so on.) The Vipers are the equivalent to S.O.G. troops such as Green Berets and Rangers or the S.A.S., and as such, have the same rank titles, (except substituting "Viper" for "private") Their MOS's do not affect their rank titles, much the way real world armies do not, IE he may be an Alley Viper, but his title is Sergeant; She may be a mediviper, but her title is Lieutenant. CG's are secret police and political officers equivalent to KGB or Gestapo; they are all officers, the majority being captains and majors. Individual Characters tend to have the grades and ranks that I feel they should have based on my experience of real world militaries, regardless of canon. (That actually applies to my Joes, for that matter. In real life, a SSG is not toting the M240 around, a specialist is.)


It sounds like you and I are in agreement about basic concepts here. I use 'Viper' as the official rank terminology for all the Army and Marine MOS's, 'Raptor' for all the Air Force MOS's, and 'Eel' for all the Naval MOS's; with 'Trooper' meaning simply a generic term for pretty much everybody as a whole. 'BlueShirt' is slightly derogatory, similar to how noobs in Navy Boot Camp were called 'Smurfs' due to living in sweats for the first few days before being issued actual dungaree uniforms. And my CC doesn't trust a whole lot of people so there is no officer class beyond the CGs and the Names.

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