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 Post subject: Next Joe line prediction.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:53 am 
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OK going off the concept vault stuff...
  • Gung-Ho
  • Rock n Roll v2
  • Storm Shadow v2
  • Barbecue (Team Bravo Firefighter)
  • 50th
  • 50th
  • Cobra Officer
  • Cobra Shock Trooper
  • FSS
  • Crimson Shadow Guard
  • 50th
  • G.I. Joe Police Unit 4
  • G.I. Joe Trooper (tan uniform)
  • 50th
  • FSS
  • Retaliation
  • 50th
  • Laser-Viper
  • Shipwreck
  • convention
  • convention
  • Stinger Driver
  • Tele-Viper
  • convention
  • Cobra Infantry
  • Retaliation
  • 50th
  • Dreadnok KAOS Crew
  • Echo Faction Trooper (Grunt?)
  • Heavy Alley-Viper
  • HISS Driver (Pursuit of Cobra HISS Driver)
  • NOMaD Warrior
  • ROC was a long time ago
  • Raven’s Wing
  • Ripcord Arctic Diver I really want those new diver accessories!
  • Snow Serpent
  • Steel Brigade v.2
  • Zartan
  • Ninja Warrior Monk
  • Urban Ninja
  • convention
  • zombies are more likely a Club convention thing I can't see Hasbro making any more
I think the most likely are the ones I highlighted in bold. These will be the new ones at TRU this fall.
They could also add some repacks ala Blowtorch.


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 Post subject: Re: Next Joe line prediction.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:15 pm 
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Of those I'd love to see Gung Ho, Rock n Roll and Laser Viper (possibly Grunt) get proper modern-era treatment.

The rest kind of leave me cold.

If they would take a few more swings at rendering some of the better new-sculpt era characters (Dart, Hacker, Crosshairs, Depth Charge, Scalpel, Medi-Vipers, Munitia, the CLAWs and their Commander) that might get me excited.


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 Post subject: Re: Next Joe line prediction.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:45 pm 
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Spin Doctor wrote:
If they would take a few more swings at rendering some of the better new-sculpt era characters (Dart, Hacker, Crosshairs, Depth Charge, Scalpel, Medi-Vipers, Munitia, the CLAWs and their Commander) that might get me excited.


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 Post subject: Re: Next Joe line prediction.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:52 am 

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I have never seen that ripcord, looks pretty cool actually. I too would like new sculpt characters to get the modern treatment but we definitely need the Case Gung ho


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:01 am 
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I'd go with the Tele-Viper as long as he comes with his ARAH era looking gear...

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I'd love to see a few of them, here's my list of what I'd love to see. Most of these I've posted before, I'm just combining them here:

First a contract renewal with Dollar General for their waves

JOES
Roadblock
(DVD 25th version) First Wave Double Blast colors. Second Wave Modified BJ's colors just the shirt, not the whole chest. 25th gun & maybe a helmet
Hawk
(General Hawk head, Kick Start body) First Wave OD green. Second Wave tan & black. Same guns as Duke.
Deep Six
(ROC t-shirt Hawk body, ROC Repeater head) First Wave DG Shipwreck blue. Second Wave DG Duke grey. Piranha Shipwreck Boonie Hat, VvV m-4, Topside vest.

COBRA
Baroness
(ROC Baroness) First Wave blue/black. Second Wave grey/black. Her pistols.
Major Bludd
(DoCI body) First Wave blue/black ala his Sonic Fighter colors. Second Wave purple & black like his 93-94 figure. Pistol, 25th anniversary Baroness rifle, & helmet.
Cobra Eel
(ROC Eel body) First wave Blue/Black. Second wave Grey/Black. Fins, web gear, & speargun

Next would be a similar contract with Family Dollar or 5 Below wave 1-2
Joes
Flint
(Flint as Cobra Trooper head & arms, Desert Ambush Duke torso & legs. First wave: black shirt, gloves, beret, boots, od green pants. Second wave: khaki shirt, pants, black beret, brown gloves and boots. Major Barrage shotgun & 25th anniversary Flint webgear.
Mainframe
(Dataframe head, ROC Lt Stone body) First wave: Dark grey uniform, black helmet, gloves, belt, & boots. Second wave: OD green uniform, brown helmet, gloves, belt, & boots. ROC Covergirl's laptop, over the shoulder strap belt, rifle of some type.
Kamakura
(ROC Flash head, Desert Ambush Duke arms, 25th anniversary Storm Shadow body) First Wave: OD Green gi, light green mask, black gloves & boots. Second wave Medium grey gi, dull orange mask, brown gloves & boots. Sash, katanna, and mp-5.

Cobras
Firefly
(Blue 25th Firefly head, ROC Night Ops Duke body) First wave: Two tone grey body, dark grey gloves &boots. Second wave: Two tone green camo body, dark green gloves & boots. Viper vest in same color as gloves & boots, Retaliation Alleyviper rifle, bomb of some sort.
Televiper
(Televiper head, Viper torso, Cobra Trooper Flint arms, ROC Breaker legs.) First Wave: Navy blue helmet w/grey visor, uniform, black gloves & boots. Second Wave: Black helmet w/red visor, black uniform , gloves, & boots. Televiper vest in color of visor, Televiper gun, pistol.
Cobra Mechanic
(Cobra Trooper v2 head, Flint v13 Body) First Wave: Cobra blue body, black gloves/boots, red emblem on chest, & Red Mask. Second Wave: Grey body, black gloves/boots, black emblem, & black mask. Repeater v3 hat in uniform color, knife, Cross Country v3 wrench, pistol.

Major retail release:
12 figures
JOES
Grunt
(ROC Sgt Stone body, Grunt v11 head) OD green shirt, basic military camo pants, black gloves, & black boots. Grunt v11 helmet, Grunt v12 gear.
Rock N Roll
(Concept case)
Pale Peony
(25th Scarlett head, new arms, Kim Arashikage v1 body) Blond hair, gi painted like the comic. Kim Arashikage v1 swords & backpack, Kim Arashikage v3 nunchucks
Gung Ho
(Concept Case)
Chameleon
(PP Baroness) Black hair, brown jacket, black collar, OD green pants, & black gloves/boots. PP Baroness guns & glasses clear frame painted black (no missile launcher).
Duke
(Duke v30) Khaki shirt, black gloves/boots/knee pads, OD green pants. V30 gear

Cobra
Crimson Guard
(25th CG head, ROC Scarlett reactive armor) CG red body, grey armor, black gloves/boots, & black emblem on chest. 25th CG rifle & backpack.
Cobra Viper
(Viper v27) 01 Viper coloring. Viper 27 gear
Night Stalkers
(New head based on the Club head, FSS Jinx body) Random hair color, black uniform, silver highlights, silver emblem. New helmet, FSS Jinx gun, Helix pistol
Overkill
(Renegades Cobra Commander head, Shock Viper torso/waist, BATS arms, Viper v25 legs) BAT backpack, new armaments
Dr Mindbender
(New or club head, Cobra Commander v48 body) White jacket, grey pants, & black gloves/boots. CC v48 pistol, ROC Covergirl laptop.
Croc Master
(Unreleased Python Patrol)

Comic 2 pack
(New Comic)
Tomax/Xamot
(25th heads, James McCullen XXIV v1 body) Covergirl v2 pistols, 2 Destro v27 briefcases & money
Torpedo vs MARS Armada
Torpedo
(new head, CC v49 torso/waist, Renegades Tunnel Rat arms, Rampage v2 legs) VvV Shipwreck boonie hat, Grunt v12 guns & backpack.
MARS Armada
(New Head, Helix torso/waist, 25th Baroness arms, & ROC PP Baroness legs) ROC PP Baroness gear (no missile launcher)

VEHICLES
JOES
Ram W/Dusty
(25th RAM & POC Dusty) Both done in shades of brown and tan. POC Dusty smg
Hammer W/Skidmark
(original body and guns on Hammer.)
Skidmark
(Renegades Cobra Trooper Head, DG Shipwreck torso/waist/arms, ROC PITT Trooper legs) Hammer in OD green camo w/ black accessories. Grey helmet w/silver visor, OD green sweater, & black pants/gloves/boots. New vest and Covergirl v2 pistol.
Desert Outpost Defender W/Benchpress & Tracker
(Outpost Defender is desert tones.)
Benchpress
(Benchpress v1 body.) Brown shirt/boots, desert camo pants, same tattoo, & black wristband. Tan boonie hat, v1 gun, & ax.
Tracker
(New head for Tracker, ROC PITT Duke torso/waist, POC Jungle Fight Duke arms, & ROC Breaker legs Khaki shirt, black gloves/boots, & desert camo pants.) 25th Viper goggles, Social Clash smg (the one both came with).

Cobra
Ferret W/Chaos Viper
(Snake Trax modded back to Ferret.)
Chaos Viper
(Alley Viper head, ROC Snake Eyes torso/waist, Airtight arms, Cobra Commander v49 legs) Alley Viper helmet, Motor-Viper vest, CC v49 pistol.
Night Raptor W/Helo-Viper
(Retaliation Sky Hawk in black.)
Helo-Viper
(ROC Flash head, SDCC Cobra Commander torso/waist/arms, & Mars Trooper legs) New helmet, CC v49 rifle.
Rifle Range W/Cobra Trooper & Night Stalker
(Gun metal grey target, tan sandbags, grey rifles.)
Cobra Trooper
(DG Trooper mold.) Various color hair, Cobra blue shirt, blue/black camo pants, black boots, & flesh tone hands. DG Helmet, web gear, pistol, DVD Trooper rifle.
Night Stalker
(Night Stalker same mold as above)Various color hair, blue upper body, blue/black camo pants, & black boots/highlights. Same equipment as above.

Store Exclusives

K-Mart
Desert Rivalries 4 Pack
Flint
(25th Flint head, CC v49 torso/waist, ROC Repeater arms, & ROC Desert Attack Duke legs) Brown shirt, black hat, & desert camo pants. Web gear, & shotgun.
Lady Jaye
(DVD head, 50th body) Khaki top, brown gloves/boots, desert camo pants. 50th web gear, & rifle.
Destro
(50th Destro head, Resolute Stalker torso/waist/arms, & James McCullen XXIV v1 legs) Metal tone head, black shirt, grey wristbands/gloves, khaki slacks, & brown shoes. Resolute Stalker rifle & POC Hawk computer/gun.
Baroness
(50th body) VvV blue paint scheme. Social Clash gun set.

Target
Jungle Fights 3 packs

JOES
Bazooka
(25th Bazooka head/arms/leg & Cobra Bazooka Trooper torso/waist) OD green shirt & jungle camo pants. Cobra Bazooka Trooper vest & 25th Bazooka gear.
Crosshair
(Kickstart head, DG Shipwreck torso/waist/arms, & Ultimate Duke legs) OD green sweater, brown gloves/boots, & jungle camo pants. Boonie hat, Major Barrage vest in brown, 50th Low Light rifle.
Dial Tone II
(Helix head/legs & Covergirl v3 torso/waist/arms) Blond hair, khaki top, jungle camo pants, & brown boots. Resolute Stalker rifle.

COBRA
Range Viper
(DoCI Range Viper body) Similar color scheme to the Twin Assault Gun Range Viper. DoCI Range Viper gear.
Jungle Explosives Trooper
(Extreme Conditions Desert Explosives mold) '01 green Viper color scheme. EC Desert Explosives Trooper gear.
Rock Viper
(POC Rock Viper mold) Slate grey body suit, all the maroon parts on original to be done in od green, & black mask/gloves/boots. POC Rock Viper gear.

TRU
2 Training Set 5 packs
JOES
Beach Head
(Retaliation 3 pack) Classic color scheme. 3 pack gear set.
4 Steel Brigade Troopers
(Retaliation Joe Trooper, no unhelmeted head) Steel Brigade color scheme. Retaliation Trooper vest, rifle, & 1 pistol.
COBRA
Lt Moore
(ROC Heavy Duty head, Shock Viper body) Cobra blue shirt, dark blue pants, silver emblem, & black gloves/boots. Shock Viper gear.
4 Cobra Troopers
(DG Trooper body & Airtight v3 legs) Cobra blue cloth

and then more
And also some single exclusives in four themes. It'd be 1 big name Joe, 2 lesser known or new Joes, 1 named Cobra w/alternate head (so it could poes, black gloves/mask/boots. Helmet, rifle, Covergirl v3 pistol
ssibly be used as a trooper), and one Cobra troop builder per theme.
Artic:
Scarlett - Resolute Scarlett in a white/grey color scheme w/pilot Scarlett vest, 25th quiver belt, Beachhead v13's crossbow & rifle.
Sub-Zero - AoCI Chuckles head, Artic Assault Snake Eyes body & vest in white with light blue highlights, ST IG mortar, Night Ops Roadblock heavy machine gun & Clip, & Snake Eyes v35 snowshoes.
Iceberg - 25th Beachhead’s head/legs, Storm Shadow v33 torso/waist/upper arms, Storm Shadow v34 lower arms, Iceberg v4 snowboard, bullet bandolier, 25th Beachhead gun & backpack. Yellow balaclava, White top, grey/white camo pants.
Major Bludd - Major Bludd v8 head/right arm/legs, Storm Shadow v43 torso/left arm with light grey coat/brown pants/metallic black armor on right arm, Major Bludd v8 accessories.
Cobra Lynx - 25th Viper head, ROC Armor Scarlett body, Ultimate Firefly Hiss Drone, & ROC PP Baroness guns. Black helmet w/silver visor, light grey cloth, & dark grey armor.
Desert:
Dusty - POC Dusty rereleased in a lighter color scheme & full equipment.
Cross Hair - Duke v43 head, Beachhead v10 torso/waist/arms/vest, Beachhead v14 legs/collar, Benchpress hat, sniper rifle, Beachhead v10 backpack. In a pale tan shirt, mud brown pants/hat/vest/back pack.
Rock n Roll - 25th Rock N Roll head/bullet bandolier/helmet, Resolute Beachhead torso/waist, POC Hawk arms/legs, FSS3 Repeater M-60, & 25th General Hawk backpack. Tan shirt/helmet & tan/brown camo pants
Shadow Tracker – Shadow Tracker rereleased in tan shirt, light brown/chocolate brown camo pants, tan mask, chocolate brown gloves, & full equipment.
Cobra Combat Ninja – Rerelease in desert color scheme & full equipment.
Jungle:
Duke – Duke v43 head, AoCI Chuckles torso/waist/arms, Duke v50 legs/pistol, AoCI Outback vest, DG Duke m-16, Beachhead v10 backpack. Od green shirt, two tone green camo pants, black gloves/boots/holster.
Stalker – 25th Stalker head, Resolute Stalker body/web gear/knife/collar/gun. Green beret, classic Stalker camo scheme, black gloves/highlights, dark green web gear w/black highlights.
Double Blast – Ripcord v6 head w/mustache, Duke v50 torso/waist/upper legs/pistol, Ultimate Flint arms/shotgun, Sky Dive v2 lower legs/pistol, Roadblock v24 m-60, & Ultimate Firefly backpack.
Firefly – Renegades Firefly & full equipment. Two tone OD green camo pants/sleeves/balaclava/vest, light OD green sweater, black gloves/boots/grenades/headband.
Viper – 30th Viper & full equipment. JvC ’00 Viper color scheme.
Urban:
Law & Order – Renegades Law & Order, full equipment. JvC ’00 color scheme.
Bullhorn – Duke v42 head, POC Hawk torso/waist, Duke v41 arms/legs, 50th Destro sniper rifle/case, Ultimate Snake Eyes rifle, Shock Viper gas mask, new bullhorn.
Mayday – ROC Covergirl head/arms, Renegades Scarlett torso/waist, Resolute Scarlett legs, JvC IG bullpup gun, Helix pistol. Black shirt w/dark grey vest, light grey pant, black boots/highlights.
Guillotine - POC Recondo head, Roadblock v24 torso/waist, Serpentor v4 arms/legs, Guillotine v1 Sword/helmet, TF Airtight pulse rifle. V1 color scheme.
Shock Trooper– Shock Trooper v1 in black/grey color scheme & full equipment.

Vehicles:
Joes:
Desert Fox w/Skidmark and/or Dial Tone II
Skidmark - new head/vest, DG Shipwreck torso/waist/arms, 25th Shipwreck legs, & 25th Wildbill pistol - done in a toned down version of original color scheme or a desert scheme.
Dial Tone II - new or blond DVD Lady Jaye head, NF Lady Jaye torso/waist, ROC Covergirl arms/legs, & DTC Airtight uzi - light tan shirt and dark brown pants.
Rhino w/Cannonball
Cannonball - new or DG Shipwreck head, ROC Mars Trooper torso/waist, Undercover Flint arms, Ace v9 legs, Bombstrike v1 pistol.
Humvee/Hammer/Brawler w/ Rollbar
Rollbar - POC unhelmeted head, 25th Dusty body, new/modded helmet, DG Duke m-16 - night ops color scheme.
Rocc w/Long Range
Long Range - new/modded head, ROC/POC Jungle Duke body, POC Dusty SMG - v1 color scheme.
HQ v1 w/ Sparks and Shooter
Sparks - Kickstart head/legs, Shock Viper torso/waist, ROC Lt Stone arms, 25th Breaker helmet/head gear, Snow Job rifle - light od green shirt, od green pants
Shooter - ROC ponytailed Scarlett head/legs, DVD Lady Jaye torso/waist, Helix arms, DG Duke helmet, Crosshair rifle - light od green shirt, od green pants

Cobra:
Desert HISS Scout w/Recon Viper
Recon Viper - (Fire Fly v22 body & a new head) IG v3 bullpup smg - desert color scheme with black highlights
Stinger w/Driver
Stinger Driver - (DG Cobra Trooper) web gear, rifle - grey shirt, black helmet, black pants.
Minotuar APC w/Nitro-Viper v3
BAT APC in Cobra Blue body and Dark Grey accessories
Nitro-Viper - (Nitro-Viper v2 head/torso/waist/legs, & Storm Shadow v32 arms)
Fang/Trouble Bubble w/Cobra Air Corps x2
(AVAC mold) Cobra blue body with red & silver highlights.

Now this is a status I could get behind.
Toys:
I like the Blind Pack RAH figures idea, there are two factors I would implement . First no stamped ID # stamped into the packages (ala Kreo, Megabloks) so it would be a true blind draw, & second I would make sure there would be no rarity levels it would be an equal distribution of figures ( a box of 24 would have 4 of each figure 3 Joes, 3 Cobras)
The new line would continue (but drop the movie tie in soon), they would be a quarterly or a bi-annually release schedule. I would do a 12 figure set with a 5 Joe, 2 named Cobras, & 5 Cobra troopers per set. Next the ratio would be about 75% established characters versus 25 % new characters/troopers. The troopers would include at least one of the vehicle drivers on card (with minor paint changes to tell it apart from the primary vehicle driver, perhaps as the co-pilot or gunner), this would handle the larger vehicles that look like they could handle more crew. Finally I would limit reissue of named characters (ie no 2 Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander in every set) to 1 in every 4th set.
My idea on vehicles/sets is to have 3 small (ala L.A.W., Battle Bunker, & Weapons Transport), 3 medium (ala H.I.S.S., Vamp, & Desert Fox), & 1-2 large (ala Tomahawk, Moray, & Sky Striker) to come with each set and a giant one (ala HQ, Terror Dome, & Mobile Command Center) to come once a year maybe around Christmas. The small and medium would come with one figure and the larger sizes would come with at least two figures. (If we ever got lucky enough to get the Flagg again I would suggest 4-5, Keel Haul and maybe some Steel Brigade deck hands) .
Now the Kreo sets I would keep around, but get out of the TRU exclusive contract and bring them further out to the public..
I would do more of a tie in with Nerf than just the Ninja swords.

Movie/TV
Bring the stories together (ie Make the cartoon/comic universe the base. Do an 80's based toon, Make a live action television show about one of the Subteams and run it with a JAG/NCIS/24 type feel, etc) and put one or two people in charge, maybe Larry Hama and someone from Hasbro.

Branding
Bring back the commercials and print ads, put them everywhere. Half the reason toys don't sell anymore is there are no commercials like we grew up with. Also clothing, I bought my boys shirts from the first movie and they still wear the ones that fit.

Comics/Books
I actually like the idea of the two different comic worlds, but they need to do a lil more to separate them, for awhile when I was getting back into them I wasn't really sure which universe was which. I picked up the book Tales From Cobra, and was psyched at first as I thought it may have been ARAH untl I took a second look at it. :rant: So far it's a great book, but I was really hoping for more of the old school feel.
Now this is a status I could get behind.
Toys:
I like the Blind Pack RAH figures idea, there are two factors I would implement . First no stamped ID # stamped into the packages (ala Kreo, Megabloks) so it would be a true blind draw, & second I would make sure there would be no rarity levels it would be an equal distribution of figures ( a box of 24 would have 4 of each figure 3 Joes, 3 Cobras)
The new line would continue (but drop the movie tie in soon), they would be a quarterly or a bi-annually release schedule. I would do a 12 figure set with a 5 Joe, 2 named Cobras, & 5 Cobra troopers per set. Next the ratio would be about 75% established characters versus 25 % new characters/troopers. The troopers would include at least one of the vehicle drivers on card (with minor paint changes to tell it apart from the primary vehicle driver, perhaps as the co-pilot or gunner), this would handle the larger vehicles that look like they could handle more crew. Finally I would limit reissue of named characters (ie no 2 Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow/Cobra Commander in every set) to 1 in every 4th set.
My idea on vehicles/sets is to have 3 small (ala L.A.W., Battle Bunker, & Weapons Transport), 3 medium (ala H.I.S.S., Vamp, & Desert Fox), & 1-2 large (ala Tomahawk, Moray, & Sky Striker) to come with each set and a giant one (ala HQ, Terror Dome, & Mobile Command Center) to come once a year maybe around Christmas. The small and medium would come with one figure and the larger sizes would come with at least two figures. (If we ever got lucky enough to get the Flagg again I would suggest 4-5, Keel Haul and maybe some Steel Brigade deck hands) .
Now the Kreo sets I would keep around, but get out of the TRU exclusive contract and bring them further out to the public..
I would do more of a tie in with Nerf than just the Ninja swords.

Movie/TV
Bring the stories together (ie Make the cartoon/comic universe the base. Do an 80's based toon, Make a live action television show about one of the Subteams and run it with a JAG/NCIS/24 type feel, etc) and put one or two people in charge, maybe Larry Hama and someone from Hasbro.

Branding
Bring back the commercials and print ads, put them everywhere. Half the reason toys don't sell anymore is there are no commercials like we grew up with. Also clothing, I bought my boys shirts from the first movie and they still wear the ones that fit.

Comics/Books
I actually like the idea of the two different comic worlds, but they need to do a lil more to separate them, for awhile when I was getting back into them I wasn't really sure which universe was which. I picked up the book Tales From Cobra, and was psyched at first as I thought it may have been ARAH untl I took a second look at it. :rant: So far it's a great book, but I was really hoping for more of the old school feel.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:19 pm 
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I've seen the Gung Ho and would love to add him to my collection, A better Tele-Viper would be great like RogueTiger said, with vintage gear. What does the Rock n Roll look like? I may have seen a pic of him, if he looks a bit closer to his V2 figure (out that may have been a custom I'm remembering)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:15 pm 
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is there going to be a next line?

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