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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:37 pm 
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Honestly, I like it because it has no words and fits into a square space, and its not a bad logo on its own. I always wanted my Joes to have a symbol they could get behind. That being said, I did laugh heartily at seeing the USPS and UPS logos next to it.....heh

At any rate, the logo is not great, but far from bad. Its worlds better than tacking stars onto the '82 logo, and far superior to that daft 60's/Spytroops logo (blech).


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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:52 pm 
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I agree that it works as a unit patch. I still like the old Joe logo and the updated one with the stars. Those look good on vehicles and packing. I get what C-Jack is saying because I miss those on the new lunchboxes and on the ROC packaging. But on the figures I think this patch works great.

More importantly it is recognizable without being "Hey, we're a super top secret elite anti terrorist unit!" If I saw a soldier with a patch like that I wouldn't think anything of it. It blends in with other unit patches. In fact, it may even be more basic then some unit patches.

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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:03 pm 

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On it's own merits, as a product of the new expression of the GI Joe property, the logo is pretty good. It's compact and looks to a lay person (i.e. children) like something from the military/espionage world without being too over the top. The eagle keeps it somewhat rooted in Amercian symbology so it isn't totally abandoning its roots, but not so much as to alientate the rest of the world market.

If the movie is a success and kids get behind it, this will become as iconinc as the ARAH logo whether old school fans like it or not. As much as I personally love the old the block letters with red, white, & blue, this logo is much more fitting with the high tech international spec-ops feel of the film (that started with Sigma 6). You slap the vintage logo on something today and it screams "80's jingoistic Reagan era cheese" to a lot of people. I'm not saying it IS that, but to a lot of people who don't live, eat, breath and sleep with Joes, the old logo carries baggage the new products don't need. This new logo also fits in better with the Rainbow 6, Splinter Cell, Halo, video game generation - which is a fine direction for Joe to go if it's going to work for kids today. And despite what armchair QB internet collectors think, GI Joe is primarily meant to be for kids :)

As far as the strange similarity to the Postal Service and UPS logos go... having worked in design and illustration for more than 15 years, I'd say the similarities are awfully close to have gone unnoticed. When designing something like this, a lot of sources are referenced and explored, and the output is usually judged by a lot of logo-savvy people before it goes into the market. I can believe that the eagle was chosen without the Postal reference in mind - it's a common symbol to draw on for this kind of genre, but the UPS similarity is striking. The US military has used black and gold in their advertising (the idea of medals and prestige etc.), but this seems too close to UPS to have been an accident. That's the kind of thing designers are specifically paid to notice and adapt. I'd almost guarantee at some point in the process, someone made the connection. Don't know where it happened (could have been the designers intentionally using it as a base or someone catching it later and saying "oh well, it still looks cools and works for UPS", but it WAS noticed and passed someone's muster. Maybe theyll even try some corss marketting with UPS... It wouldn't be the first time companies tried to tie product placement with a toyline/movie.


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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:12 pm 
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Who will be the first to paint a Cobra Hummer brown - slap on a new Joe logo and fill it with parcels for delivery?

Still waiting to see the logo in other colors - come on photoshop guys, do your thing!

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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:31 pm 
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Actually, I think the movie uniforms DO have GI JOE written all over them. I coulda swore I saw pictures of Covergirl where it was pointed out.

I don't mind the new logo. Definitely looks better than some of the other logos Hasbro has used.


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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:20 pm 
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cabanajack wrote:
Who will be the first to paint a Cobra Hummer brown - slap on a new Joe logo and fill it with parcels for delivery?

Still waiting to see the logo in other colors - come on photoshop guys, do your thing!
JoeDios.com has some made up.
http://www.joedios.com/dioramas/showima ... =20583&c=8

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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:30 pm 
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I like it. I think the simple straight to the point symbol works on a level that the old logos really never could. It's just straight to the point and stylized military without rubbing your face in the fact that it's GI Joe.

As for the design, my first thoughts were that it looked a lot like the Screaming Eagles patch with a touch of First Cav.


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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:14 pm 
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Soulgem, good eye dude, that is hilarious!! :rotfl:

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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:43 am 
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GITrekker wrote:
But this logo just has no history, and I'm not terribly impressed with the design.

History's got to start somewhere. :wink: :-)

I like it, though it will take some getting used to. I agree that it was likely developed because Joe never had an "square iconic" logo as Trekker mentioned.

Good thing about it is that it can be adapated to any number of color schemes. The monochromatic look is good, but let's say...make the border red, the star white, the background blue, and the eagle...ummm...whatever. That would give you a slightly more "American"-looking logo there. :-)

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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:11 am 
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AutobotC5 wrote:
Good thing about it is that it can be adapated to any number of color schemes. The monochromatic look is good, but let's say...make the border red, the star white, the background blue, and the eagle...ummm...whatever. That would give you a slightly more "American"-looking logo there. :-)
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 Post subject: Re: New Logo
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:24 am 
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Very nice, Ashy...very nice. :-D

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