That isn't my only issue with them (i just don't think these figures look that great overall anyway even if they did look like Destro's crew in my own perception), but its the one issue that jumps out at me, a lore follower.

I get the explanation, but when you expect something, and get something else, it is sort of like when Horrorshow didn't have full leg articulation, people said, "well he doesn't really need to sit," trying to see the glass as half full, even though for me, as decent as the fig is that is still a glaring minus (though i do have that fig btw and like him ok and all).

Its an explanation, by either Justin, or the Movie folk, that does nothing to alleviate my personal perception of the figs, and all their faults that I can't just overlook.

Again they are not here to make me happy. They have a think tank that decided this is the best route to go (make the story pre-formation so they don't have to be saddled with making figs look like something established) to gain the most profit and money.

THEY may well succeed in that, but as an individual fan i cannot just go along with that for the sake of say "a future movie" with more lore-accurate costumes, and characters (again this is not even mentioning that the fig design whoever they are supposed to be is lacking).

I like the Baroness, and Breaker heads and I like the Baroness glasses, Breaker body, Baroness case, and the Breaker looks nothing like Breaker, but these just do not do it and the story doesn't just wash over the impression i get from looking at them.

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They look like plain vanilla figures. Very ordinary. I really hope that is just a prototype paint job. I have been trying to avoid reading any spoilers about the movie itself, but the toys shown so far are leaving me cold and making me very worried about the movie.

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Agreed, and to me, this sort of thing -- and I don't specifically cite either Batman or G.I.Joe in this instance -- is proof positive of the colossal EGOS of those making movies in Hollywood. They can't bring themselves to take a concept -- Batman, G.I.Joe, X-Men, or much of anything else -- that's been well-established for DECADES -- and not screw around with it, doubtless of the opinion that they can improve upon it (and in the process thoroughly disrespect those that created it and worked on it so it gained enough popularity to be considered for a movie in the first place). The number of such movie transitions that have, in my opinion, worked out to be worth a darn, especially when compared to the original material, is astonishingly minimal.

I think of Shredder myself, and the other thing is if the IG's are a little ghetto (as per the idea that they are just starting out and don't have all the high tech stuff yet) at this point those helmets look too futuristic compared to the military sweaters on the torso.
Its another thing i kinda dislike about them. The helmets seem a little too big for the figs themselves.

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well put.
They might as well call it something else to not piss off the actual fan base (not that they care mind you) but no lets mess around with an idea that has made this particular brand good enough to come into our radar screens.

Kids love big bazookas right? Oh they cancelled the 94 line with the help of those? Well thats ok we'll add silver sparkles to the Baroness and in conjunction with the the spring loaded crap that will be a million dollar success.

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I think that part of the reason they don't look like IGs is because, well, lets face it. That costume would look ridiculous on a real person. They'd look like Cirque du soleil dancers with gasm masks. It just wouldn't look good. I for one not only think these guys look good, but for the story itself it makes sense. I still wonder though if these guys are the only grunts we're going to see or if we actually will see some Cobra soldiers.

This is true, but when looking at the individual continuity of the millions that have been playing with their toys at home, there is no need to keep all your similar toys in separate universes just because they came from different lines. In that case, people can use them as MARS troopers, low level Iron Grenadiers, or whatever they want.

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I see skull squad troopers....

I kind of wish that GI Joe would have the commando sweaters and the Iron Grenadiers have the leather body suits...

Steve

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I love the idea of non-elite destro troops. I love them with the helmets removed.

But I'll have to put in an order to Marauder John to replace those trooper weapons.

My complaint is the ever morphing size and shape of filecards. I mean seriously, we've had something like a half dozen different shapes and sizes in the last 5 years.

So if that is the extent of what I can find to complain about, they're pretty good.

- R

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I like this set of figures. I'm definitely buying 2 of them and they'll be part of my Joeverse as basic troops for the IG army, just like Cobra has their blue troopers.

I'm with you Steve. Part of the charm of G.I. Joe is the regular soldier facing off against the baddies with all the new inventive weapons. Making the bad guys look old school and the Joes look like, well, something more than an ordinary Joe with those power suits, might make for more explosive scenes in a popcorn movie, but really takes away from one of the more subtle aspects of the story.

In some cases, a re-design of the outfits make sense. So you don't want to have your star running around in yellow spandex? ok. But when the regular uni is already a modified look based on some level of real military schemes, then it's not like that is something that has to be replaced to avoid weird visuals. I understand that some Joe uniforms, if they focused on the more obscure characters, could be in need of an upgrade for a movie. But not the main characters.

And even when the outfits are a bit over the top, that can still be done well, if the trailers I've seen for the Watchmen are any indication.

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I've been on the fence about these figures since the first pics were shown. Looking at them from this perspective, yeah, they're somewhat dull but it's acceptable. I mean, the Cobra Trooper is just blue. Not really a ton of flash with those figures, either. Depending on the final price, maybe I'll pick a pack up. They could be fun.

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Even pre-IG or pre-Cobra, they are just rather dull for bad guys.

Maybe it's just part of the whole problem Hollywood has lately of things like dull looking bad guys. Throwing out the old costumes for realism. Putting heroes in black costumes instead of their old costumes. Unmasking masked characters a billion times per film. Or ripping off Heroes by getting rid of costumes all together. It's just a rather crazy mix so you don't know if you will get costumes you sort of know or not when they announce movies now.

I know I'm old and I'm crazy, but but I go to the movies for the over the top stuff like costumes you'd never wear out in the real world. The MARS pack didn't have to be exactly IG or exactly Cobra, but I was expecting something with a bit more pop to it.

Either that or after the Snake Eyes costume that really said Snake Eyes I had my hopes up that the Cobra costumes would say Cobra. Seems like such a mixed bag of I know who that is and who the heck is that supposed to be?

Hey Justin,

I think they look pretty good, it will be interesting to see if the movie makes me like them more or less.

They are a bit shiny, hopefully they're just prototypes with really glossy paint.

Thanks for posting this!