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Better Toy?
Rat 21%  21%  [ 10 ]
Grizzly 79%  79%  [ 37 ]
Total votes : 47
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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:01 pm 
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The Grizzly is a large, bloated vehicle that lacks the detail of the original toys. But it has a nice aim and shoot feature.

The Rat is a cheap drug store toy packaged in a GIJoe box.

Grizzly the winner by far. Not even close actually.

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:51 am 
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Is this a legitimate question? Or, are you guys mocking the AWE Striker vs. VAMP thread? I'm going to step out on a limb and say you're just being facetious. And although I bit hard on the other thread I concur. A dune buggy and a jeep only are alike in that they both have four wheels there truly is no comparison.

Oh and I vote for the Night Force Grizzly

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
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Don't forget...Night Force Grizzly comes with Wild Bill...or whatever version the woodland camo was that came with him. Either way, its tank driver is a helicopter pilot.

Which in my Joeverse means one thing: :-D

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:18 am 
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Well, considering I didn't even remember the Rat existed until just now, I'm going to go ahead and call it the most forgettable vehicle in the line.

As for the Grizzly, I love that tank. Figures can actually get down inside the thing and it comes in two flavors.


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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:10 am 
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Are we talking about the toys or the concept of these vehicles?

Because I happen to like the Rat, despite it's crappy toy. There was a very similar vehicle in the old Jungle Strike game, it was an orange hovercraft which had almost the same shape as the Rat which could fire a machine gun up front and lay mines behind it.

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:16 am 
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danielb wrote:
...the Rat cost much less has two working gyroscope type launchers that hasbro called flak rotors. It easily cost less then ten bucks.


Actualy, the Rat only has ONE working flying disk launcher...the other side is just a holder for a 2nd fan disk

I've said before that I'd gladly smash a RAT with a Cinder Block...regardless of where it's located...I'm sure a Patriot Grizzly could easily replace a Cinder Block in that process.

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:42 am 
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If the Rat used just slightly different colors, it would mesh a lot more with the other Cobra items. Like these colors:

http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/87/jetpack/

But with the brush saws it has, I think it just would have been a lot better as a Dreadnok vehicle. Picturing it in colors like the Swampfire is also a lot better than what we got.

Since the question specifically asked about the Night Force Grizzly, I voted Rat. The Night Force Grizzly just doesn't live up to the name Night Force imo. It looks nothing like what we already knew as Night Force and simply is a camo tank. I voted against it just because it works against the appeal of one of the classic subteams.


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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:53 am 
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notpicard wrote:
If the Rat used just slightly different colors, it would mesh a lot more with the other Cobra items. Like these colors:

http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/87/jetpack/


Like this?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/to ... 170012.jpg

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The Rat actually looks good in a subdued red or maroon, like Citadel's Scab Red.

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:57 am 
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cabanajack wrote:
Is this a legitimate question? Or, are you guys mocking the AWE Striker vs. VAMP thread? I'm going to step out on a limb and say you're just being facetious. And although I bit hard on the other thread I concur. A dune buggy and a jeep only are alike in that they both have four wheels there truly is no comparison.

Oh and I vote for the Night Force Grizzly


Its a legitimate question. They debated this issue for well over an hour yesterday in chat and like Billie said before neither was willing to budge on the stance.

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:59 am 
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Its a legitimate question. They debated this issue for well over an hour yesterday in chat and like Billie said before neither was willing to budge on the stance.


Cjack, never ever question the internet's ability to create arguments over trivial and nonsensical things. Particularly when Billy's involved. ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:02 pm 
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This has to be a joke. The Rat is the biggest pile of plastic "LASER BLAST" ever made by Hasbro. It is only worthy of being launched from a potato gun or smashed with a hammer.


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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:25 pm 
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I also had to go with the Grizzly.
Not because I like it. Honestly I really don't care that much for it.

But good lord, the Rat?
I think this described it perfectly:

FireFox91 wrote:
The Rat is a cheap drug store toy packaged in a GIJoe box.

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:10 pm 
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This is an absolute no contest. The Grizzly is one of the best Joe toys of all time (along with the NAC), imo.

It's got eveything a toy tank should have - firing missiles, opening hatches, ammo storage, cool electronics that actually enhance play (and are not there just to bump up the price), and my personal favourite feature - the screaming guy sound effect after one of the explosions.

"Aaaargh!!!!!"

That sound effect alone is better than the Rat.

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:11 pm 
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Nice taking up bandwidth for a joke thread. I can't believe I actually read it this far too! Seriously, how is this even a question? It's like asking "Which is better? Someone gives you $5 or you step on a nail and get an infection?"

I really don't care for the Patriot Grizzly at all, even though the Night one has a better paint scheme, I just don't like the too-large size and all the stupid gimmicks Hasbro feels obligated to throw in on vehicles. Especially during the JvC era (Sound Attack!, spring-loaded crap, etc.) But in a comparison with the Rat, it isn't even a question! Really, I opened the thread because I figured someone must have been shortening the name of the Rattler (either the original or the Stinger 4wd) and I just had to see how it was going. But the RAT!?!

I think too many people above have already covered the hollow cavity turd that the Rat is like. Indeed, drug store toy in a Joe box. Heck, comparing it to dog crap is an affront to dogs.

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 Post subject: Re: Which vehicle do you prefer: Rat or the Night Force Grizzly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:24 pm 
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Dark Horse wrote:
firing missiles, opening hatches, ammo storage, cool electronics that actually enhance play (and are not there just to bump up the price), and my personal favourite feature - the screaming guy sound effect after one of the explosions.

"Aaaargh!!!!!"


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